Perhaps it could seem that way to someone who doesn't understand the purpose
of the group, BB. Please see the group description. It is a forum for the
rational discussion of topics. It tends to have a more formal approach (as a
generality) to logic, structure, citation, etc. To be perfectly blunt, you
don't have the history in this group to be able to make a social diagnosis
of it. Your constant glances towards the moderators quite frankly leave me
confused. You engage cantankerously with people, say that is your style, and
then constantly call yourself the next to be evicted. Quite frankly, this
behaviour is symptomatic of a persecution complex, when no persecution is
present.
You engage with people aggressively, some engage in return, some do not.
Slip seems to usually be up for an argument, so he is often the one who
does. We're not a group who just formed when you got here, the list has been
around for years, and many of us with it, and the drama lately has come in
with new people who have attempted to bring in trolling type behaviour. We
don't allow that here. We do, however, rigorously engage in the debate of
ideas, and have no problem at all with that. "Safety" is not something that
any of us ever worry about...you're alone in that perspective. So, why not
just knock it off, and participate? Someone so intensely focused on
moderation as opposed to participation seems suspiciously interested in
making it a self fulfilling prophecy.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>  There are many ways to look at this group.  This is merely my dark
> version.  I will give you the upbeat positive version when I am in
> that mood, should I survive.
>
>   There is a sickness lurking in this group.  A stench fills the
> air.  I might be alone in smelling it.  A cancer has a foothold.  A
> callous detachment, a resignation, the players separated into packs
> and lone individuals.  The once human eyes roll back white, and when
> the attack is over, they roll forward to reveal their black , cold ,
> unaffected stares. It is a prison yard, a shark tank.  If only being
> wrong was not the ultimate horror of human beings.  What a different
> world we would live in.
>
>   There is less and less risks taken in here, and who could blame
> them? There are those safe in the shadows, who only come out to feed
> when it is safe.   Safety itself is now defined as back into self,
> where “I know and they don’t” rules supreme.    I see this as a sad
> statement of resignation and worship of a false idol.   An acceptance
> that this is the way of the world.  Any attempts at engagement are too
> easily  perceived as an assault or an attack,  then what follows is
> the silent retreat back to the perception of safety and
> righteousness.  Oh, the comfort of knowing  and they don’t.
>
>   Another shank stabbing  in the prison yard?  “That is what
> happens”   “he had it coming”   “he should have known better”   “You
> just don’t do that”  “He was a fool to try that”  “you don’t mess with
> somebody tougher than you”   “He picked the wrong person to fight
> with”    “doesn’t he know that guy’s reputation?  What an idiot”
> “You don’t mess with those above you in the pecking order, how could
> he not know that?”
> “He deserved it”  “hey, there is going to be a fight, come on let’s
> watch”  “I pay not attention to him, he is a child”  “ I am going to
> stick it to him someday”
>
>    People resort to using quotes of famous people.  Not that this is
> bad in and of itself, for it is valuable information,  but when looked
> at from the view of the prison yard,  this scores big points, it is
> relatively safe,  and it is certainly safer than using your own words
> which are much more vulnerable to attack.  It is like flashing a knife
> to another inmate,  “I have this weapon and more where that came from
> pal....at my fingertips, don’t mess with me.   I have protection.  I
> have back-up.  I have the CREDIBILITY,   I can’t be touched, don’t
> even try.  You are no match for me.”
>
>  As if being no match for another means a student can’t argue with
> the teacher.  The climate of fear, the climate of the pecking order,
> the climate of a prison yard.
>
>
> >
>

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