Doesn't sugar just disguise the bitterness, not remove it, but make it
more palatable?

On Aug 24, 9:40 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, the syrup always takes away the bitterness.
>
> On Aug 24, 7:46 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You Gabby, still confuse the hell out of me, yet I manage to instead
> > of taking offense where my natural inclination MAY well be to do so,
> > decide to dwell upon your words to see if I can understand what you
> > are trying to say to me.
>
> > Alas my dear, most times you still leave me confused.
>
> > In short my words to BB were two fold, do not let his lack of
> > experiance with the way of phliosophical debate cause him to flee this
> > place, I for one welcome all input eascpecily that which I disagree
> > with, and to remind him that it is not people that are attacked here
> > but ideas.
>
> > His OP here, is really gripeing about US, includeing yourself dearest
> > one, when the cause of this is simply his lack of time spent here, his
> > inexperiance(or so I belive) in the ways of such debate, and his own
> > paronioa.
>
> > Of course, I may be wrong on all of these counts, and I eagaly await
> > BB's reply.(It seems as if he and I can infact enter into discourse
> > without too much shouting)
>
> > You though, ahhh Gabby, my dearest Gabs, you are now have ever been to
> > me, and perhaps always shall be a lovely confusing enigma!  That is no
> > doubt due to my own ingnorance, yes?  Joy to you and yours from the
> > very bottom of my soul, you make my days ohhh lovely one.
>
> > On 24 Aug, 13:13, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > No, buddy Lee, I can't let you get through with this. We understand
> > > that you mean well, but that's about all the meaning that relates to
> > > logic and reason.
>
> > > How can anyone develop a thick skin in here, if the sun shines
> > > outside? And precisely the question of ownership of ideas is currently
> > > probably the most popular amongst scientists and others, Pat is not an
> > > exception.
>
> > > Ergo: Reading The Sun and the New Scientist is good, listening to real
> > > experts is better.
>
> > > On 24 Aug., 11:53, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hey BB,
>
> > > > Please sir do take note of what Chris has said, I would hate to see
> > > > another newbie suddenly leave us due to misunderstandings.
>
> > > > I fear that the way you see things at the moment, and please do not
> > > > think my next words are meant to insult you in anyway, is due mainly
> > > > to your inexperiance in using reason and logic in your arguments.
> > > > This IS the place where such skills are reqired.
>
> > > > Let me tell you my freind that I have been here for a little over 4
> > > > years now and when I started it seemed to me a strange place, where
> > > > people use strange words and concepts that I found hard to understand.
> > > > After a while you'll see that hardly anybody here stoops to personal
> > > > attack (We attack ideas here not people) and you start to pick up
> > > > these strange words and concepts, I urge you to develop a thick skin,
> > > > realise that your ideas do not own you but the other way around and if
> > > > such an idea is show by, logic and reason, to be dubious then
> > > > reconsider it.  However most of all I urge you to stick it out here, I
> > > > promise you, you'll not regret it.
>
> > > > On 24 Aug, 10:28, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > (sorry, I forgot the musical background)
>
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNIVpMXHqlk
>
> > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > On 24 Aug., 08:59, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Selected takes from Surveillance System 3BE-45 / [various dates] /
> > > > > > rating: TS (Board members only)
>
> > > > > > Mod#1: I’m worried about BB. He’s getting too close.
>
> > > > > > Mod#2: You mean …?
>
> > > > > > Mod#1: Yes, he may just be getting to a level where he starts to
> > > > > > conceive suspicions about our true intent and purpose.
>
> > > > > > Mod#2: The achievement of total and complete word domination?
>
> > > > > > Mod#1: Precisely. This COULD become a new keith/Kevin attack.
>
> > > > > > Mod#2: You mean, the longer you leave it, the worse it gets? If 
> > > > > > that’s
> > > > > > the case, then we’d better do something soon –
>
> > > > > > [Com unit blinks. A crackle of static.]
>
> > > > > > FA#7: Field agent seven here. Mod#1, are you there?
>
> > > > > > Mod#1: Go ahead, FA#7, communications secured …
>
> > > > > > [short break – a new camera angle]
>
> > > > > > FA#7: … and we’re just not succeeding in our attacks on him in the
> > > > > > various threads. We can’t seem to faze the guy …
>
> > > > > > Mod#2: How do you know it’s a guy?
>
> > > > > > FA#7: Oh … oh, I see. We need more concrete information in order to 
> > > > > > …
>
> > > > > > Mod#1: … in order to deal with this situation – in a more permanent
> > > > > > manner …
>
> > > > > > Mod#2: Quite! Nothing must be allowed to disturb our glorious course
> > > > > > of world domination. The Dark Side WILL conquer!
>
> > > > > > On 23 Aug., 23:11, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >   There are many ways to look at this group.  This is merely my 
> > > > > > > dark
> > > > > > > version.  I will give you the upbeat positive version when I am in
> > > > > > > that mood, should I survive.
>
> > > > > > >    There is a sickness lurking in this group.  A stench fills the
> > > > > > > air.  I might be alone in smelling it.  A cancer has a foothold.  
> > > > > > > A
> > > > > > > callous detachment, a resignation, the players separated into 
> > > > > > > packs
> > > > > > > and lone individuals.  The once human eyes roll back white, and 
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > the attack is over, they roll forward to reveal their black , 
> > > > > > > cold ,
> > > > > > > unaffected stares. It is a prison yard, a shark tank.  If only 
> > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > wrong was not the ultimate horror of human beings.  What a 
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > world we would live in.
>
> > > > > > >    There is less and less risks taken in here, and who could blame
> > > > > > > them? There are those safe in the shadows, who only come out to 
> > > > > > > feed
> > > > > > > when it is safe.   Safety itself is now defined as back into self,
> > > > > > > where “I know and they don’t” rules supreme.    I see this as a 
> > > > > > > sad
> > > > > > > statement of resignation and worship of a false idol.   An 
> > > > > > > acceptance
> > > > > > > that this is the way of the world.  Any attempts at engagement 
> > > > > > > are too
> > > > > > > easily  perceived as an assault or an attack,  then what follows 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > the silent retreat back to the perception of safety and
> > > > > > > righteousness.  Oh, the comfort of knowing  and they don’t.
>
> > > > > > >    Another shank stabbing  in the prison yard?  “That is what
> > > > > > > happens”   “he had it coming”   “he should have known better”   
> > > > > > > “You
> > > > > > > just don’t do that”  “He was a fool to try that”  “you don’t mess 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > somebody tougher than you”   “He picked the wrong person to fight
> > > > > > > with”    “doesn’t he know that guy’s reputation?  What an idiot”
> > > > > > > “You don’t mess with those above you in the pecking order, how 
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > he not know that?”
> > > > > > > “He deserved it”  “hey, there is going to be a fight, come on 
> > > > > > > let’s
> > > > > > > watch”  “I pay not attention to him, he is a child”  “ I am going 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > stick it to him someday”
>
> > > > > > >     People resort to using quotes of famous people.  Not that 
> > > > > > > this is
> > > > > > > bad in and of itself, for it is valuable information,  but when 
> > > > > > > looked
> > > > > > > at from the view of the prison yard,  this scores big points, it 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > relatively safe,  and it is certainly safer than using your own 
> > > > > > > words
> > > > > > > which are much more vulnerable to attack.  It is like flashing a 
> > > > > > > knife
> > > > > > > to another inmate,  “I have this weapon and more where that came 
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > pal....at my fingertips, don’t mess with me.   I have protection. 
> > > > > > >  I
> > > > > > > have back-up.  I have the CREDIBILITY,   I can’t be touched, don’t
> > > > > > > even try.  You are no match for me.”
>
> > > > > > >   As if being no match for another means a student can’t argue 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the teacher.  The climate of fear, the climate of the pecking 
> > > > > > > order,
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