It may be some sorta culture thing going on there Chris but not to much I think. My dad has a similar outlook and so have I. I have learned some hard lessons about the consequences of your own actions and so have both of my boys, but lessons that I feel must be learnt.
I would ask though why you would choose this option Chris? Would it be for the lessons I have mentioned? Would your heart not break at the same time? I guess it would, but I further guess that you view the lesson as more important? Okay this of course pre-empts what I presume your replies may be, but I would further ask what would be the point of carrying on such a lesson if the death of your dad or son was imminent? Would they take it as a lesson, or would they make presumptions about the depth of feeling you have for them I wonder? On 26 Aug, 13:24, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I vote to let my father or son die in prison. It's noteworthy, however, to > add that when I had my own youthful run ins with the law, my father made sure > I did not get to take advantage of an early release option well within his > ability. > > He didn't think of it as revenge, he called it "dealing with the consequences > of my actions". Is that really a culturally different perspective? > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:"[email protected]" > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Wed, > 26 Aug 2009 03:49:41 -0700 (PDT)Local:Wed 26 Aug 2009 11:49Subject:[Mind's > Eye] Re: Scottish infamy > > Sorry sir I totaly disagree, lets measure up your one example against > what could be considerd the norm. A quick straw poll should suffice. > > So hands up all of those members here if caught up in the same > situation would like to see their father or son come home to die, and > hands up all of those who would not? > > On 26 Aug, 10:49, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > For sure, Lee, especially in consideration of the nature of these > > crimes, the heinous and monstrous intent. Not to mention the cultural > > aspect, as I pointed out earlier and provided a link, the Muslim > > family wants the teenage girl, (their own daughter) dead just on the > > basis of religious conversion. But your assumption in a case where > > that girl was in prison for a heinous crime would be that the family > > was suffering and felt punished and that it would be compassionate to > > let the girl out of prison, send her home to her family because she > > was terminally ill. Unreasonable assumption? Absolutely! > > > On Aug 26, 4:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Slip I have admited there is a bit of that about it, but as I have > > > asked you do you belive it is an 'unreasonable' assumption to make? > > > > On 26 Aug, 08:58, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Don, logically there is no basis for Lee's view. It's all based on > > > > assumptive reasoning. We don't know how these family members are > > > > feeling and cannot presume they are suffering or feeling punished by > > > > the incarceration or by society and again if al-megrahi lives through > > > > a whole year there is going to be some heads rolling. I saw one of > > > > the victims stating that her husband was supposed to die of cancer 5 > > > > years ago and he's still around. > > > > > On Aug 25, 11:43 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Why should the inocent be punished? -Lee > > > > > > They aren't punished. I don't doubt they suffer but it's incorrect to > > > > > say they are punished. They are, I suppose in a way, also victims of > > > > > their relative's actions. As I think Slip touched on earlier the only > > > > > person that owes these people something is the perpetrator of the > > > > > crime. Certainly I understand compassion for them. It doesn't make > > > > > me want to release a hardened criminal to make them feel better. > > > > > > I'm not sure how many of you took the time to read Tink's little bio. > > > > > What stood out for me is his attitude that his incarceration was > > > > > unjustified because his infractions were minimal. I saw a pattern of > > > > > 'poor me, I'm the victim.' This, in my admittedly limited experience, > > > > > seems a quite common attitude amongst convicts. Recidivism being what > > > > > it is I'd want to address this personality flaw were I the criminal > > > > > type. > > > > > > I'm just sayin' > > > > > > dj > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:10 AM, > > > > > > [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> By your logic we should show compassion to a pair of murderers > > > > > >> because > > > > > >> they are, lets say, orphans. Never mind they are orphans because > > > > > >> they > > > > > >> murdered their parents for the inheritance. It would be > > > > > >> hypocritical > > > > > >> of me to concern myself with HOW they became orphans, yes? The > > > > > >> poor > > > > > >> dears deserve our sympathy. > > > > > > > Opps forgot to address this. > > > > > > > You assume dear boy that the compassion I speak of is to the man > > > > > > realsed, and yes there is some there, but I mean mostly his family. > > > > > > Why should the inocent be punished?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
