A Pollard hung high - what a metaphor. Molly as the pink Springer. The Dark Lady with crystal balls. Is this the new Tarot?
On 3 Sep, 13:05, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > My daily horoscope is telling me I should have a word with Ian for > neither following what is going on, nor contributing to the course of > events here other than ostentatiously dusting his high hung rules and > regulations. Although it must be said that Molly’s dreams of pink love > wonderfully antagonize his fading “stop it”-cries. What do you think? > They’ve got their minds elsewhere, too? > > On 3 Sep., 06:10, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I sort of scanned you BB. There feels to be some kind of rage being > > expressed. I sort of rage against the world - it doesn't have much in > > it I want. I would like a lot of things to change, my guess being > > they will in some future I won't have a human part in. All that's > > left really is to wonder whether there is something worth having a go > > at now, some means perhaps for us to be able to make more informed > > decisions being my bag - wondering if there is some means by which we > > can get information to work for us instead of just being another > > commodity. All the books can seem pretty worthless in the current > > freezing moral climate - weirdly a book by Saul Bellow (The Dean's > > December) I bought but never read says a lot of this - I know its > > content from discussions with others about the circumstances in which > > I had it and never got to read it, which peculiarly was in Bucharest > > in the Soviet times where part of the book is set. The theme, in a > > way, is that the Chicago of the free world was as bent as the > > Bucharest of the Soviet days. > > Most of the discussion in here has been done before and usually > > 'better' in the academic world - but as Bellow pointed out this is a > > corrupt world too. I used to wonder if my rile as an academic was to > > read so that my students didn't have to go through the agonies of > > discovering it's all pretty much been said by inevitably smarter, > > faster guns, to somehow get over that they didn't have just to be > > members of the church listening to my sermons - that they idea was > > something else - maybe that I could put over my reading so that they > > could make use of the work I had done to grow something else, tend the > > ground, improve it, use the produce, build anew for themselves without > > having to reinvent the wheel. I have been disappointed - education > > has become the ultimate commodity, qualifications worn like smart > > clothes. > > There is work similar to your attempt above - Veblen, Lukacs - many > > others writing on fetish and the inequalities of education, the lack > > of education as an aim in itself and the bullying nature of Bildung. > > Management has been my field and this is a classic area of wheel re- > > invention and bullshit with fashion posing as new ideas. Weber and > > others pointed to the evils of bureaucracy a century ago, yet it can > > seem all we have done is found ways to increase bureaucracy at the > > expense of freedoms we could have shared. > > My grandson (11) hasn't read much - his mates have no clue about > > reading in the sense I do. They get better quicker on video games > > than I do. I recently explained puberty to them and they derided the > > basic biology as fantasy, a somewhat offensive response if I chose to > > be offended - they are still clueless as to what a biologist might be, > > let alone to the idea that I might once have studied at university. > > My father ( a headmaster despite leaving school at 13 to be a Bookies > > runner) was once derided as a queer because he could read. Students > > in my classes have often discussed whether it is appropriate to read > > critical material as telling the truth at work is akin to writing a > > suicide note. Much, in fact, is written about this. One group, > > concerned about swearing at work (concerned it was a major part of > > normal life and yet barred by workplace rules), were surprised to > > discover a number of learned articles about this that conclude it is > > wrong to summarily ban it. One woman commented 'fuck me Neil, you > > know some shit' - with the class joyously refraining this was the best > > offer I'd had all day. I replied, that in the dismal context of my > > life, it was the best for several years. The ultimate point (this was > > a class on research methods well bored with ogives and frequency > > distributions) was that if you learn to dig about (generally > > electronically) you can find stuff on almost anything and codge > > together a report for your masters. We adjourned to the pub to watch > > football, the class educated enough to know a couple of pints would > > stop me showing them how to use excel to produce a histogram rather > > than a bar chart. > > I guess if the point is to know more about epistemology, then the > > Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy (free on line) is much more > > magnificent than this group. I am about to codge together an > > apparently learned article (broadly on Darwin) from this source for my > > masters (to get me a trip to Porto). I would broadly say I learn more > > from Ian, Slip, Gruff, Molly and others here and can put up with the > > odd jibe - perhaps from Francis - that I would not make much of a > > priest given I did take up the offer from the mature student (perhaps > > I am a future Bishop of Galway?) - buck up BB and work out we > > generally only score points in here for a giggle and share such > > erudition as we have in this spirit. > > > On 2 Sep, 16:33, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi BB, > > > > It is a fundamental principle of this group that other members should not > > > be > > > viewed as potential converts (or, in your analogy, "customers"). We're a > > > sounding-board for ideas. > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye/web/posting-guidelines > > > > Ian --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
