Yes Molly, I agree there is a fuzzyness, what to do what to do?  I
guess that each case taken by itself is the way to go.

On 4 Sep, 13:26, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is a difficult question to answer, as I can apply it to my recent
> experience of being the caretaker for my dying mother in law.  It took
> us quite awhile to catch on to the fact that she was no longer able to
> make rational decisions and was indeed insisting on self destructive
> decisions.  For instance, although she no longer had the manual
> dexterity to apply make up or use hot rollers or curling irons, she
> insisted on having it all and would sneak them into the house and
> inevitably burn herself, ruin furniture or fabric etc.,  She also had
> an anxiety driven need to move from wherever she was.  She really
> wanted to be back in her own home, but knew she could not care for
> herself there or afford a care taker living with her.  But she hated
> being wherever she was and would constantly call people that she knew
> to enlist them in her latest plot to move somewhere else.  Of course,
> she really didn't have the manual dexterity to dial a phone so two out
> of three calls were a wrong number.  This was a problem in the middle
> of the night when she would wake folks up in her need to call around.
>
> In spite of these problems, she seemed somewhat rational in
> conversation and really put on a good show of having it all together,
> so that it was hard for us to do what was necessary to protect and
> care for her.  At what point do you say to an adult - "I'm sorry, I
> know better than you do what is good for you?"  Whether the issue is
> dementia, a low IQ, or any other condition that reduces problem
> solving and cognitive abilities, there is that fuzzy line where
> decisions must be made by a care giver for the good of the patient.
> In the US, it is a complicated and lengthy process to obtain
> guardianship, requiring more than one medical opinion and several
> court appearances.
>
> On Sep 4, 6:33 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yesterday I said that that the right to be is the paramout right.
> > This article is interesting in that it seeks to curtail such a right
> > for this woman on the grounds of her low IQ.
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8222689.stm
>
> > I think that perhaps she may not be fully aware of the conseqences of
> > her decision, but does that mean that she should not be able to make
> > it?
>
> > How much can a duty of care, inpingh up the right to be, or do you
> > think that such a right simply does not exist?- Hide quoted text -
>
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