2009/9/9 ornamentalmind <[email protected]>:
> of consciousness. So…here I ask you to become a true skeptic and
> examine  very closely the things you see and feel. What is the nature
> of a table? Does it exist? How do we know a table is a table? Does a
> table ever change what it is? Etc.

How do we share concepts of items such as rocks or tables or trees or
other things that we all experience in a shared way? I have formed the
following opinion...

We use approximation and synthesization. As long as we can approximate
in our reality the perceptions that fit the feedback about the same
object as others describe in their reality then we can agree that we
are sharing an experience of the same object.

This is easy with physical objects but becomes more problematic with
other types of objects. The hierarchy is:

1: Auto-psychological objects (the self).
2: Physical objects.
3: Hetero-psychological objects (other 'selfs').
4: Cultural objects.

The further we get from #1 the more abstract and difficult
approximation and synthesization becomes. Cultural objects (such as
gods and philosophical concepts) are the most divergent while physical
objects (such as rocks and tables and chairs) are the least.


> How could he come to find that emptiness is the ultimate cosmology?

Because at its base that is what it is, either at a quantum level or
as the sum of all mass and all gravity in our universe (E=0).

> Why would you not agree with him?

That would depend what is meant by 'ultimate'. If it is meant that we
'rise to' it, then no. If it is meant that we 'rise from it', then
yes.

Although I am equating emptiness with nothingness here...

All that is something comes from nothing. Now, the problem is with
nothing which many physicists don't believe exists. There is always
something even if it is the 'spooky' responses (energy of some sort
not understood at all) between vastly separated quantum particles. Why
is there something instead of nothing? Because something is more
stable. What has been thought of as nothing is simply a curve of
space-time in a quantum vacuum that possesses an unimaginable amount
of energy. Occasionally this energy creates a bulge in the space-time
curve and a bubble breaks free and often becomes a new universe (but
that is for another thread).

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