Simon, thanks for your views...perhaps you would like to look at one
of the links? You will find that your basic assumption about emptiness
entirely misses the mark.

On Sep 9, 5:20 am, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2009/9/9 ornamentalmind <[email protected]>:
>
> > of consciousness. So…here I ask you to become a true skeptic and
> > examine  very closely the things you see and feel. What is the nature
> > of a table? Does it exist? How do we know a table is a table? Does a
> > table ever change what it is? Etc.
>
> How do we share concepts of items such as rocks or tables or trees or
> other things that we all experience in a shared way? I have formed the
> following opinion...
>
> We use approximation and synthesization. As long as we can approximate
> in our reality the perceptions that fit the feedback about the same
> object as others describe in their reality then we can agree that we
> are sharing an experience of the same object.
>
> This is easy with physical objects but becomes more problematic with
> other types of objects. The hierarchy is:
>
> 1: Auto-psychological objects (the self).
> 2: Physical objects.
> 3: Hetero-psychological objects (other 'selfs').
> 4: Cultural objects.
>
> The further we get from #1 the more abstract and difficult
> approximation and synthesization becomes. Cultural objects (such as
> gods and philosophical concepts) are the most divergent while physical
> objects (such as rocks and tables and chairs) are the least.
>
> > How could he come to find that emptiness is the ultimate cosmology?
>
> Because at its base that is what it is, either at a quantum level or
> as the sum of all mass and all gravity in our universe (E=0).
>
> > Why would you not agree with him?
>
> That would depend what is meant by 'ultimate'. If it is meant that we
> 'rise to' it, then no. If it is meant that we 'rise from it', then
> yes.
>
> Although I am equating emptiness with nothingness here...
>
> All that is something comes from nothing. Now, the problem is with
> nothing which many physicists don't believe exists. There is always
> something even if it is the 'spooky' responses (energy of some sort
> not understood at all) between vastly separated quantum particles. Why
> is there something instead of nothing? Because something is more
> stable. What has been thought of as nothing is simply a curve of
> space-time in a quantum vacuum that possesses an unimaginable amount
> of energy. Occasionally this energy creates a bulge in the space-time
> curve and a bubble breaks free and often becomes a new universe (but
> that is for another thread).
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