A dream come true, all volunteer government, can you imagine?
On Sep 12, 12:58 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> The very argument for paying them nothing in order to attract the even
> less proficient, thus leading to less government!
>
> On 12 Sep, 14:38, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > That's why politicians make the big bucks, arch, they do a great job
> > of governing.
>
> > On Sep 11, 7:22 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Come to think of it, that recently caught black cab driver-rapist
> > > lasted more than 20 years with a licence.
>
> > > On 11 Sep, 23:32, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Most people where I live don't hail black cabs because Asians have
> > > > taken over the work almost entirely and the cabs are expensive,
> > > > sometimes smelly, and often driven by illegals and people who still
> > > > try to overcharge and blather over mobiles in foreign languages. That
> > > > our governments dump mad and criminal people amongst us is clear
> > > > already. What we need to do is ensure this dumping is shared
> > > > consistently by all members and classes of society. It seems clear
> > > > that judges, doctors and other worthies generally live a long way from
> > > > their decisions. We should move them next door.
>
> > > > We have a rehabilitation of offenders act here. I broadly agree
> > > > people should be able to wipe the slate clean. Yet psychopaths are
> > > > three times more likely to convince parole boards they should be
> > > > released than normal criminals, and it's clear police and other
> > > > agencies don't keep proper records (and yet still abuse the freedom of
> > > > information and data protection acts) and that recidivism rates are
> > > > very high.
>
> > > > It would seem Lee's paranoid-schizoid cabbie would normally be
> > > > prevented by his conviction being impossible to 'spend' from getting a
> > > > licence. I also know decent people being turned down because of minor
> > > > records long ago. We should reform the rehabilitation of offenders
> > > > act, ensure privacy for those being checked (personnel departments
> > > > should not know details other than yes or no from the cops after the
> > > > applicant has had a chance to query mistakes) and checks should only
> > > > be made for genuinely relevant offences (not ones picked up in
> > > > political protesting for instance), with this being expanded in the
> > > > case of juveniles to include signs of sexual predation (this is
> > > > currently written off at 18). Currently, daft minor dross like a
> > > > shoplifting conviction at 19 is retained (a third of men have some
> > > > kind of minor conviction by 30), whilst all kinds of relevant serious
> > > > stuff is not retained or collated properly - such as matters that
> > > > would have caught the real killer of Lesley Molseed and prevented the
> > > > Soham killings.
>
> > > > I might well prefer to travel with a former killer who has gone
> > > > through proper treatment than many of the people in our society judged
> > > > not to be a menace who get no treatment and are so loony they think
> > > > they don't need any.
>
> > > > On 11 Sep, 22:08, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I'm just hung on the "Killed His Wife" part, but knowing how
> > > > > compassionate you are towards murderers, Lee, I can understand your
> > > > > tendentious view.
>
> > > > > I'm sure that Black cab drivers have a legitimate complaint in that
> > > > > many people will undoubtedly "avoid" hailing a cab with a black driver
> > > > > as precautionary measure to being killed by a relapse of paranoid
> > > > > schizophrenia.
>
> > > > > But of course your more worried about the schizoid murderer than the
> > > > > black cab drivers.
>
> > > > > On Sep 11, 7:25 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yesterday on our local London news I hear that thousands of black
> > > > > > cab
> > > > > > drivers intend to take to the streets to express their feelings of
> > > > > > anger over a convicted murderer being given licence to take 'the
> > > > > > knowledge' reqiured to allow him to become a black cab driver.
>
> > > > > > The man is a paraniod scizophrenic who killed his wife and has been
> > > > > > held for 9 years before being given a clean bill of health and has
> > > > > > since been released.
>
> > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8233750.stm
>
> > > > > > Now I have personal experiance with scizophrenia, no not me but a
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > good friend of mine, and I know that with the proper medicain those
> > > > > > who suffer form this illness can and do live more or less ordinary
> > > > > > lives.
>
> > > > > > You all know me by now so it should come as no suppries to learn
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > I feel sorta disgusted by the proposed actions of our cabbies.
>
> > > > > > There is in this country a huge stigma attached to mental health
> > > > > > and a
> > > > > > lack of understanding of the effects it can have on those who suffer
> > > > > > and their families, I wish it was not so as it seems simple to me,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > would not protest against a man who had say broken a hand and wished
> > > > > > to become a cabbie.
>
> > > > > > It doesn't really supprise me though, I figure that not everybody
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > encountred those who sufffer.
>
> > > > > > So what do you think?
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