.... there is a realm of absolute meaning above and beyond individual interpretation or there is not. If there is not, which I am inclined to be the truth of the matter.....
I guess I am inclined the other way can you say why you think meaning is reducible to individual interpretation? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justintruth <[email protected]> > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Schrodingers Cat on verge of becoming real > > I guess I am confused. I thought that the cat experiment was trivial > to set up and only needed a quantum trigger mechanism. I thought it > wasn't actually set up out of concern for the cat - not that it took a > sophisticated technical setup was needed. > > I also thought that the whole issue was decided. If I flip a coin and > I look at the result and ask you the probability that it is a head you > will say 50/50 but if I show you the coin your "wave function" will > "collapse" and you will say its 100 or 0. Your "observation" affected > the probability. The only difference is that I posited that I looked > at the coin or at least that the coin exists. In quantum mechanics no > one can look at it and in some cases it can be shown that there is no > way that a coin could have gotten there by usual mechanism. But if one > tries to decide whether to posit an object that can't be experienced > then the answer is no by Ocham's razor. > > I don't get why there is a need for this experiment nor why its so > hard to set up? > > On Sep 15, 7:32?pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Towards Quantum Superposition of Living Organisms > > > Oriol Romero-Isart, Mathieu L. Juan, Romain Quidant, J. Ignacio Cirac > > (Submitted on 8 Sep 2009) > > The most striking feature of quantum mechanics is the existence of > > superposition states, where an object appears to be in different > > situations at the same time. Up to now, the existence of such states > > has been tested with small objects, like atoms, ions, electrons and > > photons, and even with molecules. Recently, it has been even possible > > to create superpositions of collections of photons, atoms, or Cooper > > pairs. Current progress in optomechanical systems may soon allow us to > > create superpositions of even larger objects, like micro-sized mirrors > > or cantilevers, and thus to test quantum mechanical phenomena at > > larger scales. Here we propose a method to cool down and create > > quantum superpositions of the motion of sub-wavelength, arbitrarily > > shaped dielectric objects trapped inside a high--fines > se cavity at a > > very low pressure. Our method is ideally suited for the smallest > > living organisms, such as viruses, which survive under low vacuum > > pressures, and optically behave as dielectric objects. This opens up > > the possibility of testing the quantum nature of living organisms by > > creating quantum superposition states in very much the same spirit as > > the original Schr\"odinger's cat "gedanken" paradigm. We anticipate > > our essay to be a starting point to experimentally address fundamental > > questions, such as the role of life in quantum mechanics, and > > differences between many-world and Copenhagen interpretations. > > Comments: ? ? ? 8 pages, 4 figures > > Subjects: ? ? ? Quantum Physics (quant-ph); Mesoscale and Nanoscale Physics > > (cond-mat.mes-hall) > > Cite as: ? ? ? ?arXiv:0909.1469v1 [quant-ph] > > > Apparently, this is about actually putting a flue virus or possibly a > > water-bear (tiny - less than 1 mm) in the Schrodinger's Cat super- > > position using lasers. ?Water-bears can actually survive vacuum for a > > few days. ?The old thought experiments get ever closer to being made > > into real experiments. ?This one might answer the question of whether > > large objects aren't quantum because of interference from the general > > world or whether there is a size or mass for quantum behaviour as > > Penrose (Danger Mouse's best pal) suggests. ?I can't wait for the day > > I can approach some old mate blathering on about Schrodinger's Cat and > > accuse him of being a mindless philosopher before setting up my lasers > > and water-bears on the bar! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
