I am all for printing the legend in literature. Those carried away with legend words and media as though true in circumstances where the evidence should count really worry me. Gareth Peirce has just written a piece on the Lockerbie disaster in the London Review of Books - http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/peir01_.html - (you can get LRB as a google gadget) demonstrating how our legal systems are 'doing legend' - a sorry tale of bent 'forensic experts' I am all too familiar with. This particular story has the FBI-CIA conspiracy ring in it - but there are many others littering much more routine establishment 'investigations' suggesting many street-level operatives can't sift fantasy from reality and proof.
On 19 Sep, 01:47, Eternity <[email protected]> wrote: > You know me so well... My FaceBook and MySpace are different. Facebook > I generally only have people I already know and trust. MySpace I ... > uh.. have few hundred more. But I've wittled away a thousand or so. I > actually had 8 I specifically had to completely remove from my MySpace > -- 4 who were WAY too local for my comfort. Luckily my legal name is > not the same as my Birth name. > > :) > > On Sep 18, 4:01 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Bother you? From what I can tell, you encourage them! ;) > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Eternity <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks SD! Wow, that must have been exciting! Worrying about stalkers > > > is different than worrying about being fired for what you're saying, > > > thats for sure. I have a fairly good following of Internet Stalkers, > > > which doesn't bother me too much -- I did change things around, and > > > there are certain things that I never give out under any circumstance > > > as extra precaution. > > > > On Sep 17, 6:53 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well there's a voice to be heard. Thanks Eternity! > > > > > I do say what I want and pose my thoughts in a candid manner. > > > > However, let it be known that in the past, at least ten years ago, > > > > when I used my real name, I did eventually receive phone calls to my > > > > home which set off some marital discord and in one instance a woman > > > > approached me in the parking lot of my employ excitingly announcing > > > > her Internet pseudonym, "It's me!" she declared. At that very moment > > > > I knew the time was ripe to disappear as much as I could on the > > > > Internet, and as you all should very well know there have been many > > > > instances of Internet stalking and crime due to openness which is > > > > basically vulnerability. As it turned out I wasn't the father of her > > > > Internet baby. LOL > > > > I just heard on the news earlier today that there is a legal software > > > > people can buy that allows the "hijacking" of your cell phone > > > > conversations. I'm looking into it further but don't really have much > > > > to report other than it is some version of a spyware for cell phones. > > > > There is peopledata.com and zabasearch.com which both locate people > > > > and give current and past residential addresses aside from other > > > > information, birth date, phones etc. > > > > > Look yourself up! > > > > > Sincerely; > > > > Slip Disc > > > > also known as Gadfly and Slippy Fishy (thanks to Orn and Gabby) LOL > > > > > On Sep 17, 2:57 pm, Eternity <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but this is really when we as citizens have to stand up for our > > > > > rights. We are perfectly able to stand for what we believe it. And > > > > > we're called to do it! > > > > > > If you're worried about what somebody else thinks or feels in regards > > > > > to your own thoughts, feelings, and actions then perhaps you should > > > > > reconsider your stance, or perhaps you should call them out on theirs. > > > > > > In fact, in the US today is Constitution Day. . . So I encourage > > > > > Americans to take a look and re-read what we're supposed to ensure > > > > > we're protecting. > > > > > > ~Eternity~ > > > > > > On Sep 17, 9:33 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The HR implications for anyone posting can be very severe. I've > > > > > > seen > > > > > > a number of cases in which rather minor criticisms have led to > > > > > > dismissals. Even pseudonyms may not help as pressure can be put on > > > > > > ISPs and so on the reveal identities. In a recent UK case, two boys > > > > > > were imprisoned for 6 months on what appears very scant evidence (if > > > > > > any at all) before a jury pretty summarily threw out the case. They > > > > > > seem to have done little other than engage in a daft fantasy. > > > > > > More important than these pressures, I have recently witnessed first > > > > > > hand the extent to which establishments still engage in character > > > > > > assassination against whistle-blowing and their willingness to > > > > > > engage > > > > > > in routine lying. I doubt any of us would have much to fear if we > > > > > > could rely on some kind of fair play and publicly scrutinised > > > > > > investigation, but HR and legal systems are often little more than > > > > > > gossip systems. The two boys arrested as a serious threat to their > > > > > > school and classmates above actually appear very normal. When I > > > > > > drew > > > > > > attention to very disturbing essays and actual violet behaviour by a > > > > > > student some years back it was ignored. He killed two plastic > > > > > > surgeons near Wakefield. I have recently witnessed much worse than > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > We should, of course, be able to provoke, engage in fantasy, suggest > > > > > > thought experiments and so on - these have long been standard > > > thinking > > > > > > and dramatic tools. Often one has to scratch the liberal to find > > > > > > the > > > > > > bigot and so on. I wonder where the lines are and when they need to > > > > > > be broken. > > > > > > > On 17 Sep, 15:43, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree Chris. But often posting under a pseudonym from time to > > > time > > > > > > > can lead a careful observer to the actual person doing the > > > > > > > posting. > > > > > > > And I expect HR groups would want those pseudonyms anyway. Jim > > > > > > > > On Sep 16, 9:09 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I speak openly and frankly on this forum without fear of such > > > consequences, and post with my real name. Anyone concerned about those > > > issues has the ability to post under a pseudonym, and many do. I think > > > much > > > would be lost in nuestra cosa if the frankness of our conversation was > > > gone. > > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:retiredjim34 > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds > > > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:20:44 -0700 > > > (PDT)Local:Wed, Sep 16 2009 8:20 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] CAUTION > > > > > > > > > In reading some threads recently, I noticed how open and frank > > > some of > > > > > > > > the posts were. They talked about scamming the system, legendary > > > > > > > > promiscuity, and not quite being the real thing for example. > > > > > > > > Given the degree to which electronic gadgets and social > > > sites > > > > > > > > have invaded our lives, and the degrees to which some will go > > > when > > > > > > > > vetting a job applicant, I suggest that it behoves us all to > > > > > > > > rein > > > in > > > > > > > > our occassional frank and revealing comments. If a prudish HR > > > staff > > > > > > > > member happened to come across such comments, they might be > > > shocked, > > > > > > > > or worse. And we well might be asked to lead them to such > > > comments by > > > > > > > > listing all social sites we patronize. > > > > > > > > Just a word of caution. > > > > > > > > By the way, does anyone know the post retention policies of > > > Minds > > > > > > > > Eye? I fear that it they may keep our posts forever. Jim- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
