I don't see how ethics and morals are or need to be divided. Maybe
some confuse etiquette and social norms with morals when they
certainly can be distinquished. Forced or forbidden marriages were
also nasty and completely under the control of the patriarchal tribe,
aristocracy or church doctrines (it was also tied to increasing wealth
via dowries or property). Honor killings are an attempt to maintain
control of patriarchal authority.//What is doing the right thing?
Weighing the "cost" of one's decisions- this depends on the maturity
of one's conscience and the abilty of a culture to instill worthwhile
values via education and laws- if the culture skates by on wobbly
ideas and performance, no doubt the citizens will do the same- this is
relativism/situation ethics.

On Sep 25, 7:55 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Umm 'doing the right thing' and 'more to do with ethics than morals'
> would suggest that Honour is bound up in ethics.  Just an aside then
> if ethics is concerend with doing what is right, and morals are
> concerned with questions of what is right or wrong, then can it be
> true that ethics are as subjective as morality?
>
> Aside over.
>
> More I need more people, I'm trying to understand this concept of
> honour.  Honour killings for example strike me as well not really
> honourable at all, the honour of the family, what does that actualy
> mean?
>
> On 25 Sep, 13:32, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well, an individual must abide by the code of his/her culture although
> > one can walk away from dishonour and generally pay a steep price for
> > it. I think it means doing the right thing despite the cost.
>
> > On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 25 Sep, 12:13, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > It seems an easy enough question.  What is it, what does it mean to
> > > > have it, what acts are honourable and what not?
>
> > > It mostly depends on culture.  It was honourable to the Aztecs to be
> > > sacrificed to Quetzalcoatl, I doubt many today would feel the same.
> > > Thieves, at one time, had a code of conduct, making some theiving
> > > honourable and other thieving not honourable.  Seppuku (harakiri) is
> > > considered honourable in Japanese culture, but viewed as simple
> > > suicide and damnable by the West.  Roughly, honour (like good and
> > > evil) is, like its opposite, shame, an opinion/perception and is
> > > relative.- Hide quoted text -
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