“Could you elaborate a bit more on that?...” – SD Slip, a miscommunication perhaps? Anyway, I interpreted your previous post as saying that you discriminate as to what/who is stupid and/or moronic. [“…I've seen it a few times and never found it heart wrenching. I usually spend more time wondering how stupid people are to get that hooked up with a preacher, thinking what is wrong with people…” – SD]
I then assumed that after you have stratified what is attractive (not- stupid/moronic) and what is not-attractive (stupid/moronic) that you do not give them the time of day. (my phrase) [“…. I don't waste much time with morons unless it's for entertainment purposes….” – SD] So, as a result, it appears that you, on occasion are entertained by such behavior. My intent was to point out that all of this, being subjective, can all too easily assume one’s own view is from a non-stupid/moronic place. And, further that each of us is evaluated all the time by others…and are seen as stupid/moronic by some….even though we don’t see that aspect of our behavior. Since we don’t see this, and assuming the universality of your above process, some people would find ‘us’ entertaining and we wouldn’t even know it! [Repost of what Slip was asking me about: “Slip, an interesting result from concocting a hierarchy of stupidity and then ignoring the ‘morons’ (relative to self) except for entertainment is that one will never know when they are being used for entertainment! :-)” – OM] On Sep 28, 2:06 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Could you elaborate a bit more on that? > > Morons for entertainment to me represents dumb crook shows and such. > Some can be pretty dumb as a review of Molly's recent post will show. > I don't remember the name but it was a list of dumb things morons do. > > On Sep 28, 1:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Slip, an interesting result from concocting a hierarchy of stupidity > > and then ignoring the ‘morons’ (relative to self) except for > > entertainment is that one will never know when they are being used for > > entertainment! :-) > > > On Sep 28, 6:46 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I've seen it a few times and never found it heart wrenching. I > > > usually spend more time wondering how stupid people are to get that > > > hooked up with a preacher, thinking what is wrong with people. I > > > viewed it all in a non-chalant way, completed unaffected and that may > > > seem chilly but it's just my separation from the external at work. I > > > don't waste much time with morons unless it's for entertainment > > > purposes. People that do stupid things ultimately pay for their > > > stupidity and I couldn't care less about them. > > > > On Sep 28, 8:31 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I saw it. Heart wrenching. > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, [email protected] < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Did anybody watch that documentry about Rev Jim and Jamestown the > > > > > other month? With audio recordings of the actual event at the end, > > > > > fuck me talk about harrowing. > > > > > > On 26 Sep, 10:04, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > We > > > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. > > > > > > -orn > > > > > > > Yeah, maybe so. But at least mine's not flavored with cyanide! > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:34 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > “…I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > > > > solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > sense….” – DJ > > > > > > > > Sense, perhaps…wisdom, no! Personally I find any blind use of > > > > > > > dogmatic > > > > > > > social philosophy to be anathema, even more so than simple > > > > > > > fantasy and/ > > > > > > > or hyperbole. The latter can show clarity while the former can > > > > > > > not. We > > > > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 12:56 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Well I wouldn't go so far as to say I 'trust' them but I > > > > > > >> definitely > > > > > > >> respect them. Like you say, they aren't shy about stating their > > > > > > >> purpose. They have some sound opinions on the health care bill > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > >> make a lot of sense to me. Naomi Klein, on the other hand, comes > > > > > > >> across as your typical purveyor of agitprop. I remember when she > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > >> instrumental in playing the race card after Hurricane Katrina. > > > > > > >> Writing some hogwash about Bush deliberately putting blacks at > > > > > > >> risk > > > > > > >> while saving whites after the storm. Just silly. She has a > > > > > > >> history of > > > > > > >> fabricating truths and exaggerating evidence to support her own > > > > > > >> sick > > > > > > >> fantasies. I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > > > >> solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much > > > > > > >> more > > > > > > >> sense. > > > > > > > >> In a completely unrelated matter; why do so many 'activists' > > > > > > >> hide(or > > > > > > >> at least obscure) their true ideologies? People that live and > > > > > > >> breath > > > > > > >> a Marxist doctrine will look you straight in the eye and tell > > > > > > >> you they > > > > > > >> aren't a communist. Do you think they're ignorant, stupid or > > > > > > >> are they > > > > > > >> trying to put one over on us? Not that there is anything wrong > > > > > > >> with > > > > > > >> being a communist... I'm just curious what some of you think of > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> often un-clever attempts of some journalists to muddy their > > > > > > >> political > > > > > > >> leanings. Do they think we're all stupid or something? > > > > > > > >> dj > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > Around the time of the formation of this organization (The > > > > > > >> > Heritage > > > > > > >> > Foundation) I had begun to become politically and economically > > > > > aware. > > > > > > >> > Quite quickly I learned to study who funded and ran such ‘think > > > > > > >> > tanks’. Their stated mission: > > > > > > > >> > “Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a New Right think > > > > > > >> > tank. > > > > > > >> > Its stated mission is to formulate and promote conservative > > > > > > >> > public > > > > > > >> > policies based on the principles of "free enterprise, limited > > > > > > >> > government, individual freedom, traditional American values, > > > > > > >> > and a > > > > > > >> > strong national defense." It is widely considered one of the > > > > > > >> > world's > > > > > > >> > most influential public policy research institutes.” > > > > > > > >> > …sounds innocent enough, no? And, they do come right out and > > > > > > >> > state > > > > > > >> > their political and economic dogma. > > > > > > > >> >http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation > > > > > > > >> > Further down the page, on the above link, one can find the > > > > > > >> > primary > > > > > > >> > corporate funders of the foundation, big-pharma, tobacco, > > > > > > >> > insurance > > > > > > >> > companies, military contractors. > > > > > > > >> > They, along with the Cato Institute and others who manufacture > > > > > > >> > consent, are anathema to anyone other than the top 1% > > > > > > >> > financially in > > > > > > >> > the US and similar people worldwide. > > > > > > > >> > From an article by Naomi Klein a year or so ago: > > > > > > > >> > “But, you know, I was interested that yesterday the Heritage > > > > > > >> > Foundation, which has always been a staunch Friedmanite think > > > > > > >> > tank, > > > > > > >> > that they came out in favor of the bailout. They came out in > > > > > > >> > favor > > > > > of > > > > > > >> > the bailout; they said it was vital. And what’s interesting > > > > > > >> > about > > > > > that > > > > > > >> > is, of course, the bailout is creating a crisis in the > > > > > > >> > economic—in > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > public sphere. It’s taking a private crisis, a crisis on Wall > > > > > Street, > > > > > > >> > which of course isn’t restricted to Wall Street, and it will > > > > > > >> > affect > > > > > > >> > everyone, but it is moving it, moving those bad debts, onto the > > > > > public > > > > > > >> > books.” > > > > > > > >> > Her website:http://www.naomiklein.org/main > > > > > > > >> > …some of her views on the Heritage Fondation: > > > > > > >> >http://www.naomiklein.org/search/node/the+heritage+foundation > > > > > > > >> > The most recent ‘Research’ by the Heritage Institute: > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > Defunding ACORN: Necessary and Proper, and Certainly > > > > > > >> > Constitutional > > > > > > >> > by Hans A. von Spakovsky > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > The Baucus Individual Health Insurance Mandate: Taxing > > > > > > >> > Low-Income > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > Moderate-Income Workers > > > > > > >> > by Robert A. Book, Ph.D., Guinevere Nell, and Paul L. Winfree > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > The Baucus Health Bill: A Medicare Physician Payment Shell Game > > > > > > >> > by Dennis G. Smith > > > > > > > >> > The above is from their own site. > > > > > > > >> > I have never trusted this organization when it comes to helping > > > > > > >> > humanity. They clearly continue to push the same old economic > > > > > > >> > dogma > > > > > > >> > that produced our current situation. I guess one gets what > > > > > > >> > they pay > > > > > > >> > for, no? > > > > > > > >> > On Sep 25, 5:24 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> April 2005 > > > > > > >> >> Top 10 Examples of Government Waste > > > > > > >> >> by Brian M. Riedl > > > > > > > >> >> President George W. Bush has proposed terminating or strongly > > > > > > >> >> reducing the budgets of over 150 inefficient or ineffective > > > > > programs. > > > > > > >> >> This is a step in the right direction to pare back the runaway > > > > > > >> >> spending that has pushed the budget deficit over $400 > > > > > > >> >> billion. In > > > > > less > > > > > > >> >> than three years, the first baby boomers will begin to collect > > > > > Social > > > > > > >> >> Security: Lawmakers must therefore begin to reduce spending > > > > > > >> >> now to > > > > > > >> >> make room for the massive Social Security and Medicare costs > > > > > > >> >> that > > > > > will > > > > > > >> >> follow. > > > > > > > >> >> The first place to trim runaway federal spending is in waste, > > > > > fraud, > > > > > > >> >> and abuse. Congress, however, has largely abandoned its > > > > > constitutional > > > > > > >> >> duty of overseeing the executive branch and has steadfastly > > > > > > >> >> refused > > > > > to > > > > > > >> >> address the waste littered across government programs. In > > > > > > >> >> 2003, an > > > > > > >> >> attempt by House Budget Committee Chairman Jim Nussle (R–IA) > > > > > > >> >> to > > > > > > >> >> address wasteful spending was rejected by the House of > > > > > > >> >> Representatives, and similar calls in 2004 by then-Senate > > > > > > >> >> Budget > > > > > > >> >> Committee Chairman Don Nickles (R–OK) were rejected by the > > > > > > >> >> Senate. > > > > > A > > > > > > >> >> small group of House lawmakers has formed the Washington Waste > > > > > > >> >> Watchers, but their agenda has not been embraced by the whole > > > > > House. > > > > > > > >> >> Lack of information is not the problem. Today, government > > > > > > >> >> waste > > > > > > >> >> investigations and recommendations can be found in hundreds of > > > > > > >> >> reports, such as: > > > > > > > >> >> * > > > > > > >> >> Studies published by the U.S. Government Accountability > > > > > Office > > > > > > >> >> (GAO),[1] > > > > > > >> >> * > > > > > > >> >> The Congressional Budget Office’s Budget Options book, > > > > > > >> >> > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
