It has struck me that much of what we accord as positive actually has
an origin very different in value than what we accord the term now.
Education is a case in point. It started out to keep elites in power
through knowledge. A bit later it was about model students for model
armies. Now it contains an elite route inaccessible to most. Other
stuff we venerate, like Royal Families (not just literally - Bush is a
Royal as KrapperKraut {now Windsor}) established themselves through
brigandry and thieving, Western power and so on .... we have no
meritocracy. I think what gets to me it not this stuff, but that we
haven't realised we don't need any of it. Prosperous peace is now
possible.
On 28 Oct, 01:10, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Whew! Potent commentary Neil!
>
> On Oct 27, 4:09 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's more or less what I feel on this Lon. I found school really
> > easy - though hated most of it off the sports field. I'm broadly sick
> > of how we reward people and what this encourages. I think most of us
> > could grok most of what is important if education and propaganda
> > didn't mystify it for the sake of grading us. I'm not out to make us
> > all equal in the sense of the same or uniform but I am wondering about
> > why we allow such massive differences. I suspect this IQ (EQ or Ei)
> > stuff is a typical part of the excuses given to us about a tiny number
> > hogging resources. I have to say I think most people like stuff I
> > can't stand - soap operas, pop music, romantic and detective fiction
> > and upper-class bullshit alternatives - and have destroyed a lot I did
> > like (sport before commercialisation) and this makes me suspect they
> > are not very intelligent or reasonable - but I suspect this is more
> > cultural than genetic. If we are generally so dumb that burning the
> > planet and Hollywood are what we really want well fair enough, let's
> > just wait for the war. Otherwise, we might want to work out we have
> > schools all wrong.
>
> > On 27 Oct, 21:19, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I like to seek out the hard questions, and the one you bring to light
> > > is that it may be true that some groups of people on average are not
> > > intelligent enough in the 'right' way to succeed in modern society.
> > > It is a hard thing to contemplate for those who have been
> > > indoctronated from birth that each one of us has unlimited potential.
>
> > > Of course, this depends entirely on your definition of success.
> > > Should a 'burger-flipper' be less honored than a physicist. A good
> > > burger had much more impact on my day than many of the scientific
> > > discovories of the day. In the US, day care workers are near to the
> > > bottom of the barrel, status-wise. These are people who we trust to
> > > take care of our children. It may not need the same kind of mind that
> > > can write computer software, but it's a pretty damned important job.-
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