To be brutally honest I find the study of this kind of stuff a waste, though one can waste around and learn and there are much worse things being done. The science that has tended to interest me could share some of the spirit of trying to find something worth discovering in virtue and integrity but I have great difficulty with anything that requires so much tradition of any kind. I think the world is barking mad and would welcome something more peaceful and at one about a practice of peace. I think, for now, we have missed the chance and need some minimalist rules around which to try again. We have made this extremely difficult through denials of fact in our praxis. I tend towards pragmatism in this and that we have to accept limitations in human reasoning on the basis of a factual history. There is as big a mistake in the separation of fact and value as there is in the bifurcation of nature.
On 21 Nov, 22:26, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I for one would not follow wallace > I do not know any other way of putting it > Allan > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Orn - I lose spellchecking with IE for some reason. My general > > sense of 'out there' is that it is operationally defined and then this > > is forgotten, or perhaps it is forgotten that not all others referring > > to such a definition have forgotten. > > > On 21 Nov, 15:24, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am curious about the work this organisation does : > >http://www.mbaproject.org/ > > > ! > > > > Just felt like asking, without starting a new thread. " MBA " stands > > > for : Mind Body Awareness. They seem to be into actions that impact > > > the individual and the society, including the ' management ' and > > > institutional fraternity. > > > > That they are doing it, if you may confirm, means a million times more > > > than the fact that it may amount to nothing much. > > > > On Nov 21, 8:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Without knowing what is meant by “rekection” it is difficult to > > > > comment. However, in all cases, I find what most call “out there” to > > > > *all* be at once here, universal and neither inside nor outside. > > > > > On Nov 21, 6:45 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I take a rather different route Orn, as you know. Something like > > this > > > > > is considered in the Kantian sublime and I do know quite a few people > > > > > who are not 'adherents' but still use these techniques as a > > framework, > > > > > even some more 'magical-astrological' ones. I have to say I have > > > > > experienced a great deal 'unusual' in such company, including great > > > > > relief to be amongst people managing to care without my angst. I > > > > > strongly believe now that it is too difficult for us to commune. > > > > > > My sense of much of what you post feels like something of a rekection > > > > > of the 'out there'. I immediately agree and yet wonder about the > > > > > nature of the descriptor 'out there'. I wonder in very naive ways > > > > > about 'why we are here'. This leads me to some rather different > > > > > frameworks. > > > > > > On 21 Nov, 13:22, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > A new article by Alan Wallace having to do with numerous important > > and > > > > > > informative instructions for achieving one pointed concentration > > and > > > > > > associated states of consciousness with the goal of helping > > humanity. > > > > > > Here one will find indications for the necessary conditions, the > > > > > > necessary prerequisites, the actual practices involved along with > > an > > > > > > erudite presentation of historical advice from the most recognized > > and > > > > > > realized personages involved in this scientific praxis over the > > span > > > > > > of the last 2,500 years. > > > > > > > Mr. Wallace who is proficient in the Tibetan and Sanskrit languages > > > > > > and who has spent decades seeking and receiving personal > > instruction > > > > > > from masters of true lineages for his personal practice is well > > > > > > qualified to share this sage advice. His foundation in both > > > > > > contemplative and scientific practices aids him in his ability to > > > > > > share insights and recommendations to those of us in today’s > > western > > > > > > societies. > > > > > > > His ability to clearly present a full practice and solution for > > > > > > humanity in areas that normally are seen as being inscrutable is a > > > > > > rare and extremely valuable quality. Those who are serious in the > > > > > > search for actual and lasting solutions for the global, social and > > > > > > personal issues of today would be well advised to take the time to > > > > > > read study and apply his wisdom. > > > > > > > Although this is a relatively short article published in Tricycle, > > a > > > > > > contemporary magazine, rarely is there such a wealth of practical, > > > > > > well founded and accessible advice found today in any format or > > venue. > > > > > > It is an excellent way to gain the foundation necessary for > > > > > > understanding what is involved in entering such an important and > > > > > > necessary path today. > > > > > > > For the benefit of all: > > >http://www.sbinstitute.com/PDF%20AW.org/Wallace_WithinYouWithoutYou.p...- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=. > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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