The Soviet demise was predicted by a French academic called Todd Don.
I've always thought Thatcher-Regan stuff was more pointed at stopping
us becoming more democratic.  There's quite a good book by Naomi Klein
that makes a few key assertions.  You guys removed any chance the
Argies had by denying them spares a long time before we sent our task
force - this basically screwed their airforce - all allegedly because
of their dirty war - the kind the US generally supports in practice
behind hypocritical denial.  My guess would be that China is the real
threat, but god knows how any of us would know.  I don't even know
what it is we steal from the less developed world.  Oil is an easy
answer and we have always managed to suppress commodity prices (which
may have a very direct link to inflation) by doing deals with despot
bastards.  My suspicion is that it's all madder than we know.

On 1 Dec, 21:01, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually, I credit the great Maggie Thatcher with greasing the wheels
> on the fall of the old USSR.  "Don't go all wobbly." Uncle Ronnie was
> just following her lead.  I think Europe will have perhaps an even
> larger role in global politics then you might suspect in future.  I
> her Angela Merkle's name being bandied about on a regular basis when
> in the past we didn't pay any mind to European politics.  The times
> they is a'changin'.
>
> I hope you are right and Russia is moving towards a more free society
> but frankly I don't see it.  Putin is running a totalitarian
> government from all that I hear.  Their parliament is full of
> sycophants.   I admit it's a tad frustrating that in order to raise
> the opinion of our allies towards us it seems necessary to earn the
> scorn and contempt of our enemies.  It feels out of whack.  To be
> clear I don't consider Russia an enemy.  It's those crazy Islamic and
> Communist countries that worry me.  China isn't crazy like NK.  Unless
> you count crazy smart.
>
> Oh yeah.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SojAZ0X1e0
>
> -Don
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > " ... the winning of the cold war ... "
>
> > Coming from US citizens, as a bubble of pride or gloating over a
> > perceived great achievement, I find the bubble to be starkly illusory,
> > a mere imagination, a propaganda.
>
> > If the reference is to the collapse of Soviet Union, it was all due to
> > the internal contradictions of the communist bloc. I understand the '
> > cold war ' but see no winners here, except as an allowance for child
> > talk.
>
> > The Russians are right now trying to learn how to bring ' public good
> > ' and ' individual liberties / enterprise ' together at several levels
> > in practice and thought ... society, media, politics, economics,
> > law ... It would take them decades more than necessary, thanks to
> > their experience of the kind or respectable ' profiteers,' legal and
> > illegal, national and global.
>
> > Few decades down the line, I see Europe coming a lot more closer to
> > and intimate with Russia and its resources, culture, opportunities and
> > people. The Obamian twist in US history may be best ' hedge ' thing to
> > happen, for the good of US Americans, in the future global place.
>
> > On Dec 1, 8:29 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM, ornamentalmind
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > And Don, for your information:
> >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
>
> >> > By the way, the foundation of capitalism is “wealth redistribution
> >> > ideologuery”.
>
> >> Ever notice the lyrics to the song 'Irony' by Alanis Morisette contain
> >> little or no irony at all?  Now THAT'S ironic.  I always understood
> >> the foundation of capitalism as free markets.  It is clear you and I
> >> went to different schools of economics and my intent is not to argue
> >> with you(it's proved useless so far) but to state my understanding of
> >> the term.  Chomsky's take on Reagan's free market credentials is noted
> >> as is his observation that government grew under him as well.  What he
> >> doesn't do is put this in perspective with the military build up and
> >> the winning of the cold war and the corresponding massive increase in
> >> our GDP that followed.  Ignoring the Black Swan may be convenient but
> >> it's detrimental to your credibility.
>
> >> Being enigmatic is fun!
>
> >> -Don
>
> >> I just might check that movie out.  Moore is funny and I like the idea
> >> of embarrassing big cheese bankers in such a public fashion.
>
> >> -Don
>
> >> > On Nov 30, 1:48 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> More wealth redistribution ideologuery.  If the man knew about feeding
> >> >> the needy he wouldn't spout such non-sense.  Meals on Wheels has
> >> >> nothing to do with Social Security.  Community service, by definition,
> >> >> is local and supported by local businesses and private donors.  SS is
> >> >> nothing but an enormous Ponzi scheme that soon will fail unless
> >> >> massive amounts of money are pumped into it.  It is consumed by fraud
> >> >> and waste.  This is what happens to enormous federal entities.
> >> >> Proponents of single payer HC should sit up and take notice.
>
> >> >> Community service isn't subversive it is being phased out by the
> >> >> federal government.  Our earnings are increasingly being confiscated
> >> >> and we have less to help our local citizens out.  The money is being
> >> >> used to fund politicians pet projects and as bribes to get new
> >> >> colossal spending bills passed.  See the New Louisiana Purchase.  Mr.
> >> >> Chomsky has it backwards and I think he probably knows it.
>
> >> >> -Don
>
> >> >> n Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM, ornamentalmind
>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Other than the obvious irony, how would you criticize this recent
> >> >> > quote by Noam?
>
> >> >> > "Social Security is based on an extremely dangerous principle: that
> >> >> > you should care whether the disabled widow across town has food to
> >> >> > eat. The Social Security "reformers" would rather have you concentrate
> >> >> > on maximizing your own consumption of goods and subordinating yourself
> >> >> > to power. That's life. Caring for other people, and taking community
> >> >> > responsibility for things like health and retirement — that's just
> >> >> > deeply subversive." – Noam Chomsky
>
> >> >> >http://www.zcommunications.org/zquotes/2600
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