We used to say there are Marxists and there are Marxists Don. Apparently, some Marxists were not adherents of Stalin the Terrible or Megalomaniac Mao. One might say much the same as this for capitalists. Marx was very much a capitalist in talk of ownership of the means of production. I have never believed we should let the vile creatures who slant themselves forward for public office manage us or our money, whether through centralised State apparatus or bwanking rituals. Happy to carry the non-neocon version of the card. Walmart have gone some considerable steps too far in exploiting the public purse for profit and lousy working conditions. We need laws to stop that kind of thing. But we also need the directness of democracy, particularly in terms of speed of the private sector, as long as we can demand services we want. This rather begs the question of what we should want and the role of government as a stimulating and regulatory force working in open public scrutiny. And of course, the quality of the public doing the scrutiny. Complex stuff, all the more frightening when in the eleventh hour as Gabby points out.
On 7 Dec, 23:02, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > The colour is orange, when it is 5 to 12. The call for green is long > past. > > On 7 Dez., 15:26, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ah yes. And a capitalist is born. Shall I print you up a card? > > > -Don > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Panorama (UK current affairs) did a half-hour on business response to > > > the ecological challenge last week. You can catch it on BBC I-Player > > > if interested. At first sight, it was pretty bland, but the sub-text > > > was devastating for our current government. Britain is at the bottom > > > of the heap in Europe, ahead only of Lichtenstein and Malta. Along > > > comes a guy who has tried to work with government and he says 'It was > > > like watching 50 episodes of Yes Minister in slow motion. The MP- > > > chair often failed to turn up'. They role on one of the MiIlliband > > > brothers, a supposed future PM and he is disgusting, churning out some > > > vapid dung about having done all this stuff (to end up in the > > > relegation zone) and there being much more to do. There are clips of > > > our current PM bleating 'green this, green that'. > > > > They moved on from the poison gnomes of politics. In Scotland a > > > village has bought their own wind turbine. It produces about £67,000 > > > profit a year for the village, spent on better insulation. They paid > > > £2.5 million for it, a deal funded by the electricity use. No one > > > asks about expanding such schemes to all - or mentions dread old > > > phrases like 'ownership of the means of production'. A quick > > > calculation went t through my head. £40K per family here spent to > > > support the bwankers. 800 people in the village. Invested in > > > renewable energy, 270 (say) families could have had a wind turbine > > > rather than support bwankers, more or less the village equation. > > > > Elsewhere they showed simple and complex schemes being run by Tesco, > > > from monitoring heavy-footed lorry drivers to quite complex green food > > > production schemes. By the end of this simple programme, I was > > > convinced it's time to dismantle or so called democracy and follow > > > Napoleon - 'Britain as a nation of shopkeepers'. In short, I'd rather > > > vote Tesco because they are more accountable to us than the > > > politicians. > > > > I think this Panorama may have been an example of journalists > > > exasperated by politicians. I've certainly no time left for them in > > > Britain and the EU people we get to see are a class act in comparison, > > > though we only see good ones - there must be a mass of dross amongst > > > the anti-female, slaughter the homosexuals crew. I can't explain > > > properly, but I felt I had a glimpse of the possible end of grasping > > > consumerism and political sludge in this programme and my response to > > > it. > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
