Jeremy Clarkson is a piggish, opinionated, non-pc lout. He's also -
occasionally - quite funny:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article6954535.ece

Francis

On 11 Dez., 20:05, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Again I disgree. A healthy attitude is all you need to enjoy crimbo
> > you proclaim.  Yet I find that my healthy attitude deems Xmas, a
> > worthless thing.
>
> Worthless to you, it seems.  Clearly not to many millions of other people.
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> > Let me try to explain why  say this.
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> > Christmas, is of course a Christian holiday, for Christians it
> > celebrates the birth of the Messiah.  A worthy celebration indeed, if
> > you are that way inclined.
>
> > I you are not though, why celebrate Xmas?  What are you celebrating
> > instead?
>
> > Family ties, a chance to come closer to those you care about?  Then
> > why not do this everyday instead?  To have one day a year set aside in
> > which to worship at the altar of consumerism, and then pretend it is
> > all about the family, well that seems silly to me.  To secularise an
> > existing religious fesitval, well that seems dishonest and insulting
> > to those who view the day in a religious way.
>
> Sheesh dude, I'm practically an atheist.  I love Christmas.  Probably
> mostly because of good memories I've been exposed to and made for
> myself over the years during this time.  For many, this time of year
> is miserable because it's associated with bad memories.  I get it.
> When I'm feeling good(and when I'm consciously trying to feel good) I
> like seeing smiles on folks faces and people enjoying shopping for
> their kids.  It's reliving your childhood.  Of course, if the
> childhood memories suck then it follows Christmas won't be a fun time
> of year for that person.  Unless they consciously decide that it will
> be.
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> > Why not make as big a deal of Ramadam?  We can loose it's religous
> > meanings and look upon it as a week of healthy purging instead, I mean
> > that fasting IS good for your health, if you do it every once in a
> > while, perhaps for one week in the year.
>
> Ever hear of Lent?  I personally don't participate but my Dad is proud
> of his ash mark.  I used to get lots of goat meat at Ramadan.
> Apparently fasting days mean fasting only during the day.  While it's
> daylight.  That might be ok if it falls in the dead of winter but I'll
> be damned(no pun intended) if I'd stick it out in the summer.  The day
> lasts too long.  And then there's this:
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> Penalties of eating in public during Ramadan daytime
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> In some Muslim countries, failing to fast or the open flouting of such
> behavior during Ramadan is considered a crime and is prosecuted as
> such. For instance, in Algeria, in October 2008 the court of Biskra
> condemned six people to four years in prison and heavy fines.[13]
> In Kuwait, according to law number 44 of 1968 the penalty is a fine of
> no more than 100 Kuwaiti dinars, or jail for no more than one month,
> or both penalties, for those seen eating, drinking or smoking during
> Ramadan daytime.[14][15] In UAE, eating or drinking during the daytime
> of Ramadan is considered a minor offence and would be punished by up
> to 240 hours of community service.[16]
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> > Now if that seems like a slightly barking mad idea to you, and if it
> > makes you feel a little uncomfatable hijacking a Muslim holy time and
> > changing it's meaning, and if you find the idea a little offensive to
> > Islam, then you'll begin to get an idea of what I mean.
>
> I suppose if I was forced to go out and buy presents for everyone I
> wouldn't like it.  But since I participate by choice I revel in it.
> Sure I get a bit wistful occasionally but I snap out of it and get
> busy.  The good xmases far outweigh the bad ones for me. I hate
> shopping for myself but going with someone else and getting the xmas
> shopping done ain't that bad.  The internet helps.
>
> In the spirit in which you've decided to not celebrate; here's my
> offering to you.  Merry Christmas!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AC3sZB-v7Q
>
> -Don
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> > On 11 Dec, 15:38, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> You don't need to be a Christian to enjoy Christmas!  Just a healthy
> >> attitude.  Hard to come by, I know.
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> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Hv9YmhGpw
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> >> -Don
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> >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Bah humbug.  Xmas again and those of you who know me should know that
> >> > I just don't enjoy this time of year.
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> >> > Granted this year I shall not be working, and this year I have my
> >> > family at home with me, but still it's that time of year again when
> >> > most of us start to feel guilty that we have not spent enough on each
> >> > of the people we want to gift, again we shall go through the 'who do I
> >> > send cards to' rigmarole, the family rows, the consumerisum trap that
> >> > is modern day Xmas.
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> >> > As a non Christian, can't we just do away with it, leave it to the
> >> > followers of Christ, me honestly I can't see any merit to the day.
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> >> > On 10 Dec, 05:45, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Right Orn, I'm sending the boys round.  This is in such poor taste it
> >> >> almost isn't funny!
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> >> >> On 10 Dec, 01:35, dj <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> >> > And She Touch A Jew..
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> >> >> > On Dec 7, 9:45 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> >> > > Before anyone gets all excited about the ‘season’, enjoy this song
> >> >> > > first, OK?
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> >> >> > > Thanks.
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