I'm pretty sure, there is enough space for the distinctive other, too.

On 11 Jan., 06:20, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yet again Neil, your Il Capitano is well played!
>
> On Jan 10, 6:12 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wish, in many ways, that I was still footling about with lasers in a
> > laboratory, only having to give any concern to public argument over
> > delayed trains and the continued failure of my rugby league team.  One
> > can do something rather similar in my subject, which is broadly about
> > how organisation comes about and develops, ending up in esoteric
> > arguments in 'good sense' whilst despising 'common sense' (these are
> > Gramscian terms).  Science has no truck with common sense and academe
> > in general regards it as a theatre of the absurd.  One can reverse the
> > gaze, and we often hear phrases like, 'he's bright, but has no common
> > sense'.
> > Some way into academic views, one can find the notion of 'paradigm',
> > that knowledge is always expressed in generic terms of reference and
> > one must understand the root metaphors or ways of life involved.
> > Science can be viewed as just such a form of life.  People doing this
> > neglect many of the difficult questions this raises, such as whether
> > you'd ask a bunch of physicists to produce a Bose-Einstein condensate,
> > or a grannies' knitting club.  Complex ideas of human understanding
> > are involved here, but it is too easy to lapse into a form of
> > knowledge deconstruction that denies evidence entirely.
>
> > Philosophy can seem to quickly unhinge everything, but this is
> > generally a case of a little knowledge being a very dangerous thing.
> > Absurdity might be a place to understand how weak our arguments often
> > are.  How did the Chinese rationalise 'foot-binding', the British
> > 'witch-burning' (we hung most of them really) and so on?  Currently,
> > in the UK we hear our politicians saying we must find ways to
> > encourage the best people into politics, the absurdity being that
> > these politicians are clearly not the best people at all, looking like
> > a bunch of money-grubbing scum to many of us.
>
> > My thesis is that argument is dangerous to power, and that as power
> > cannot do away with argument (as it uses a form of it), it ensures
> > control of it.  We are encouraged to forget this through control
> > measures that are 'hidden' as manners.  The abstract argument from
> > here is very complex, but there are some practical events in history
> > that can help to make them specific.  Even these take considerable
> > space to detail.  At bottom in this, power clearly hides evidence from
> > us to prevent proper argumentation.
>
> > Theory aside (plenty is written if anyone wants to venture into the
> > field), I wonder what role our more emotional appreciation might play
> > in changing current politics?  I, for instance, would rather watch a
> > Sartre play (an agony) than our current mainstream current affairs and
> > news - at least Sartre had some ludic intent to provoke, the latter
> > now merely soap opera of 'happy shiny news for happy shiny people'.
> > Even satire programmes are almost unwatchable because we know the
> > jokes are the same as ever and part of business-as-usual.  Everything,
> > in some sense, becomes a niche-industry, including protest.  Even 'The
> > Graduate' has become true, with a real life 'Mrs. Robinson', perhaps
> > even more added irony in that it has taken place in Northern Ireland,
> > a last bastion in bigoted morality.
>
> > Many radical studies of Soviet Paradise noted the theatre of the
> > absurd, not just in show-trials, but in a gloying kitsch; Arendt noted
> > the banality of Nazi evil.  I partly read Bellow's 'The Dean's
> > December' in Bucharest before the wall came down - his point being
> > that the moral climate was freezing in East and West.  I didn't agree
> > then - we were free of some of the brutalities here.  Now I believe we
> > are going backwards, and faster than we know.  Politics as we have it
> > is absurd - they like it that way and much as in the soviets this may
> > be how they maintain their terror.
>
> > One classic move in the media is to stick a microphone in front of Joe
> > Public, which seems to me to resemble monkeys, typewriters and
> > Shakespeare.  He gets 15 seconds of fame saying something bland, and
> > they claim balance as the rest of the air-time is given to the very
> > people who have been failing us for 20 years and more.
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