Neil, I refer to her as Donna, from her previous identity here. She's
very fine by me except when she goes snide, in an attempt to put
another down.

As it happens, I am not much tickled by slapstick any more !  I do
appreciate humour in writing, such as Fran favours us with, OM's
dramatic expressions, or yours on the flow when not seeming to be a
vale of confusion or veiled bigotry.

Needless to say, I value my relationships with others here. Sometimes,
just sometimes, I do reciprocate on behalf of one, quite as I would on
behalf of a friend in a street brawl !

Right now, I am in the process of taking punitive action against
service providers who have proven less than competent. The businesses
I had hoped to kick start by New Year are now delayed.

On Jan 18, 9:54 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would miss Gabby Vam, perhaps like waking on that mid-week morning
> when the bruising didn't hurt after the weekend mauling.  But no, not
> really, as her sting is often very relevant to our own smugness.
> Perhaps you should pass these 'benefactors' on to me, old friend, for
> the sake of your own fidelity of course, rather than the expansion of
> my bank account!  I'd laugh if my sides weren't already hurting from
> the laughter than is the only sensible response to this thread.
> Mollybroganenterprises is not my cup of tea, but I respect the effort
> of putting any books together.  There is a market, though we'd have to
> return to an open fire to get any benefit here and don't have the kind
> of friends one could invite to a book burning, other than as an art
> statement for some greater good.  Molly is free to use anything of
> mine, as I couldn't bear the vanity of believing any of it so special
> as to merit moral assertion to copyright.  And Molly just tends to be
> OK by me, even if she is equipped as well as most of us in what passes
> for a street-brawl in here.  I doubt Gabby is motivated by spleen
> (rather the opposite), but wouldn't care much anyway as she makes me
> smile.  If we are not careful, the rest will be silence ...
>
> On 18 Jan, 14:04, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Fiddler, this is trolling, pure and simple, and that's something our posting
> > guidelines don't allow here. We're here for the honest exchange of ideas,
> > and this is clearly spelled out. Personal attacks add zero value to
> > legitimate discourse. The mods here don't hover over the keyboard, waiting
> > to delete "objectionable" posts, but if you continue in this vein, you will
> > be placed back on moderation.
>
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:18 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I'm shocked! Another mean person that just has it out for you, molly,
> > > and group? How do you put up with this horrible persecution?
> > > I mean jeez!! How dare we expect to disagree with you or have reality
> > > based opinions! Maybe you can find some nice catholic witch-burners
> > > and muslim bomb runners to agree with!
>
> > > Maybe someday molly will tell you to not call people repugnant, but by
> > > the time she responds the two of you will have decided that the idea
> > > of you calling someone is repugnant and that was what you were trying
> > > to describe...
>
> > > On Jan 17, 11:17 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Ah, again, your unsolicited and repugnant advisory, Gabs ? !  I
> > > > suppose Ian's advisory is to address ideas or posts, not person.
>
> > > > Gabs, those informed of your history here know that you've had it with
> > > > almost everyone here. I let you know another secret : you add almost
> > > > nothing to ideas being discussed here.
>
> > > > On Jan 18, 3:57 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Deal, if you start adding a short footnote to each of your articles
> > > > > that you intend to use the produced material for other purposes
> > > > > elsewhere, too. We should think for the newbes, too.
>
> > > > > On 17 Jan., 21:28, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I agree.  Lighten up!
>
> > > > > > On Jan 17, 1:47 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Sorry, Slip, but I still don't get it. This is a discussion group.
> > > If
> > > > > > > you post a comment and, especially, if you open a thread with it,
> > > it's
> > > > > > > going to be discussed.
>
> > > > > > > Threads here frequently meander and I don't think most of us are
> > > > > > > overly concerned about thread purity wards. If you post something
> > > for
> > > > > > > "reasons ... which you didn't care to share at this time" then I
> > > > > > > suppose you're going to have to reckon with (mis)interpretations.
>
> > > > > > > If Twirlip is the person who you perceive as stalking and 
> > > > > > > harassing
> > > > > > > you, then you're tending to oversensitivity ... in my opinion.
>
> > > > > > > Let's all lighten up a bit here, people ...
>
> > > > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > > > On 17 Jan., 20:35, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Mr. Fran;
> > > > > > > > Whether it was posted privately or as public notice it still has
> > > > > > > > nothing to do with anyone else.  There was no need for people to
> > > > > > > > comment on what they know nothing about nor what is perceived to
> > > be
> > > > > > > > none of their business.
>
> > > > > > > > Molly had not problem with it, and you seem to have understood
> > > and had
> > > > > > > > not taken any time to offer unwarranted comment. As you stated 
> > > > > > > > "I
> > > > > > > > understand perfectly that you are not threatening Molly, rather
> > > > > > > > withdrawing a permission previously given. That's fine."
>
> > > > > > > > The real problem is not the OP but that others for some reason
> > > want to
> > > > > > > > interpret it differently and take it as an attack on Molly and
> > > then
> > > > > > > > attack me.  I have my reasons for issuing the statement which I
> > > don't
> > > > > > > > care to share at this time.  The thread has descended into chaos
> > > and
> > > > > > > > now I'm being stalked and harassed by someone who wanted to be
> > > left
> > > > > > > > alone.
>
> > > > > > > > The OP did not violate any laws or guidelines and neither does
> > > > > > > > removing one's posts.  A Public Notice is very common for legal
> > > > > > > > statements and can be found in many newspapers and other media 
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > public record.  It does not warrant the public to post 
> > > > > > > > commentary
> > > in
> > > > > > > > agreement or disagreement to the private legal matter.
>
> > > > > > > > I removed it and hope the issue sinks into the abyss, I will
> > > pursue
> > > > > > > > other channels of communication with Molly over this matter.
> > >  Thanks
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 17, 1:00 pm, frantheman <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 17, 11:03 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Look Allan, you don't know what you are talking about nor
> > > is your
> > > > > > > > > > > interpretations of the thread post correct.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you read any sentence that said Molly wronged me?  Did
> > > you read
> > > > > > > > > > > any portion that implied a lawsuit?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It was a request for Molly to discontinue using my M E
> > > posts on her
> > > > > > > > > > > blog, not a lawsuit.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Molly understood it perfectly and in her First reply
> > > stated:
> > > > > > > > > > > Slip at one time gave me permission to use his comments
> > > from this
> > > > > > > > > > > group on my blog.  now he is asking me not to use them.  
> > > > > > > > > > > No
> > > problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > As a courtesy, I do not use material on my blog without
> > > permission,
> > > > > > > > > > > although the fair use copyright laws (as we have discussed
> > > previously
> > > > > > > > > > > in this group) are applicable. <molly
>
> > > > > > > > > > > SEE??  Can you READ?  "now he is asking me not to use
> > > them"?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > If you don't know what you are talking about your should
> > > mind your own
> > > > > > > > > > > business.
>
> > > > > > > > > What the f**k?
>
> > > > > > > > > Slip, what are you trying to do here? First you start a 
> > > > > > > > > thread,
> > > then
> > > > > > > > > all your posts, including the initiating one, disappear. Well,
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to comment anyway - to you.
>
> > > > > > > > > I understand perfectly that you are not threatening Molly,
> > > rather
> > > > > > > > > withdrawing a permission previously given. That's fine. What
> > > strikes
> > > > > > > > > me as being possibly disingenuous is the fact that you chose 
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > do
> > > > > > > > > this with an open thread and not - which, it seems to me, 
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > have
> > > > > > > > > been quite sufficient - with an e-mail to Molly directly.
>
> > > > > > > > > For this reason, I seem to get a faint whiff of shit stirring
> > > > > > > > > somewhere. But then I may just be imagining things ...
>
> > > > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
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