On 19 Jan, 12:28, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > YOU! You are barred! ;¬) >
Perhaps. Just not in this round of space-time. ;-) Like I've always said, I know that my ideas, though true (and I stand behind that, though some may state it is only my conjecture), will, invariably, upset some people. But the truth is supposed to upset some people. That's one of the things it does. I believe it's my office, for lack of a better term, to remind people of some certain truths or to remind them of the implications of verified facts. That will, also invariably, upset some people, but we're FAR better off dealing with the truth and working from a standpoint of understanding the truth than we are from hiding from it, however difficult it may be for some to accept. As the Guru Granth Sahib states: Everyone is subject to His Command; no one is beyond His Command. O Nanak, one who understands His Command, does not speak in ego. (that's lines 15-16 of the 1st page!!) Now, if you can turn that around to support 'free will', I'd be very surprised indeed. > On 19 Jan, 10:27, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 18 Jan, 17:32, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So I have been away for a week(damn me am the only IT bod in the world > > > without Internet access at home,this is NOT the question) and when I > > > come back i see all sorts of rows and arguments and I guess what can > > > only be described as 'bad bood' > > > > Those of you who know me well enough by now know that one of my things > > > is the concept of 'free will' and it is something along these lines > > > that I want to ask you about. > > > > Choice of belifes. I was asked elswhere a while back on some Sikh > > > forum or other why I choose to belive that the entity we know as God > > > exists. After thinking about it for a while I realised that I > > > couldn't really answer this question in any way other then: > > > > 'Good question Agnostic Ji. > > > > Do we really choose to have faith in God's existance though? Can we > > > literaly choose what we wish to belive or not? > > > Lets try it, please try to choose to belive that God exists and let us > > > know what happens. > > > I suspect that I can no more choose not to belive in God than I have > > > chossen the opposite.' > > > > Am I right? Rather like one's sexual preferance, is it true that one > > > can choose to belive in God or not? > > > > Ian I'm look at you my friend. > > > Space-time is not compatible with free will. We live in a space-time > > continuum that contains all of space and time. You have no choices, > > rather, you have the appearance of them due to the fact that you have > > the ability to speculate yet you lack access to the future. It's > > really THAT simple. God, i.e., that which truly IS, is that which > > decides, and God decides to do all that which is possible. In this > > particular sequence, you believe in God.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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