I do sense the oneness expressed. Yes, this or that, neither. On Jan 19, 10:48 pm, edward mason <[email protected]> wrote: > When I read in the book of Micah 4:5, "For all people will walk in > every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the > Lord our God for ever and ever", there's little doubt that religion > plays onln a small role in a search for God. > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > Many, many, many years ago now, I desired to change an aspect of my > > personality, after many years trying I found I had succeded. > > > I think for practical perposes, begin by living as the being you want > > to be, try to say or do those things you envisage this 'new you' > > saying and doing, after some time I found that I was no longer trying > > to become the man I wanted to be, but I just was. > > > This prayer is actualy a big part of my life although of course I had > > not known about it when I formulated the little lifes motto that > > governes this aspect of life for me. I put it this way. > > > 'There are things in life that you should get angry over, and there > > are things in life where such anger is nowt but wasted energy. So > > only get angry when your anger can change the situation' > > > Hah yes at one point I was a very anger person indeed. > > > On 19 Jan, 11:42, Twirlip <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Someone recently mentioned this well-known prayer attributed to > >> Reinhold Niebuhr (although this version is possibly slightly altered > >> from the form in which he wrote it): > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Niebuhr > > >> "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, > >> Courage to change the things I can change, > >> And wisdom to know the difference." > > >> In respect of one's own self, how in practice does one recognise the > >> difference between those two kinds of "thing"? > > >> Assume that a person wishes to change whatever about themselves should > >> be changed. (Without that wish, there is nothing much to discuss.) If > >> something about that person can be changed, will they come to have an > >> understanding of that particular fault as if from a viewpoint higher > >> or other than their own, at the same time as retaining their original > >> point of view in a modified form? On the other hand, if something > >> about themselves cannot be changed, will they merely feel an opaque > >> sense of irremediable guilt and despair, and no awareness of the fault > >> as if from outside themselves, however hard and however long they try? > >> And on the /other/ other hand, if something about a person genuinely > >> cannot be changed, then can anything be said in general terms as to > >> whether that defect might be a truly bad thing, or whether it can > >> always be accepted as a part of that person, rather than a moral > >> fault? And finally, does belief in an omnipotent judgemental God tend > >> to force all of a person's defects to be regarded as belonging to the > >> second category, even when in fact they belong to the first category? > > >> (Of course, a person may feel opaque guilt and despair even about > >> something that can in fact be changed, because they are clinging to > >> their fault and failing or refusing to recognise it, but I am assuming > >> that they have "the best will in the world", and know from experience > >> that they are capable of recognising some things about themselves that > >> can be changed.) > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
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