Can there be inclusiveness without exclusivity? I think there can be, but the paradox might not be seen or embraced by all. My point was not an examination of conflict. My point was the respect and appreciation of the members of the group, all viewpoints, each to his own.
On Jan 26, 12:56 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > Are we all getting a little dualistic here? :-) I learn here, I teach > here, I grow here (as one of the places I visit in my life). So do > others, presumably. > > New posters nearly always do the regulars here good - even if they are > often causes for conflict and frequently move on (or, occasionally, > have to be pushed). Otherwise we run the danger of becoming a rather > incestuous group of talking-heads, pushing predictable buttons and > pulling familiar strings. Sometimes the conflicts bug me, other times > (if I'm feeling feisty, for example) they can wind me up and get my > mind going. Sometimes we just spin our wheels, sometimes real > encounters happen, sometimes ... you read a post and it goes - wow, > yeah! (or, "no f***ing way!"). Engagement or apathy - the choice is > always there, always made and remade anew, and frequently the > motivation for acting one way or the other has nothing to do with > what's going on HERE. > > Francis > > On 26 Jan., 16:50, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would sorely miss you if you chose another silent interlude in this > > group Pat, especially because of what is mentioned above. The tone > > lately has been less of an honest exchange of dialogue and more of a > > combat zone. Historically, those of us that are here for the exchange > > get quiet during these times, and those here for the combat rule the > > day. > > > Why we have the need to tear each other down is a mystery and barrier > > to the real communication I know is possible in this group, which is > > unlike any other I know of on the web. I learn much from all members, > > but especially you Pat, and am always interested to see your name in a > > thread. Let them yawn while they burn my books, it may be worth it > > for one real connection here, and I often have many. > > > It seems our moderators are people to who occasionally lose site of > > the meaning of personal attack. I say, let those of us here for > > dialogue continue on, irregardless of the nay sayers. Let the nay > > sayers say nay to each other while we touch on the real, there is room > > for all, (within the guidelines, of course.) > > > On Jan 26, 8:19 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 25 Jan, 16:17, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > 2010/1/25 Molly <[email protected]> > > > > > > I, for one, welcome Pat's ideas and knowledge - all extensive. Like a > > > > > breath of fresh air in this group, as he extends the boundaries of > > > > > thinking with his kind treatment. > > > > > I welcome Pat's ideas and knowledge too, which I hope was clear. That > > > > wasn't > > > > my issue. > > > > > Ian > > > > It seems I've got under your collar and Lee's. As I'd mentioned in my > > > response to Neil, perhaps I'll just spend more time writing the book, > > > because, I'm really just re-hashing the same things these days and I > > > can understand that can be both boring (as Neil says) and irritating > > > (as it seems to be with you...probably because we hold differing > > > opinions). If I focus on my book, then my audience WILL become > > > larger. But one thing I'd like you to understand about me is that I > > > feel very deeply that I have a moral obligation to have my concepts > > > heard, because, if I'm correct, then it would best behove mankind to > > > listen AND learn. Which is why, to those who do not want to learn my > > > subject matter, I seem to be coming across 'increasingly didactic'. I > > > think you, like Neil, are just getting bored by hearing the same old, > > > same old. I'm not saying I'll go away completely, but, perhaps only > > > interject occasionally, for it may be better to be a bit of spice than > > > a heavy salting. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
