On 26 Jan, 16:31, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > Manson was only considered a god by himself, the concept is different > for gods. > > Is God willing to prevent Evil, but not able? Then he is not > omnipotent. > Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. > Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh Evil? > Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God? > - Epicurus- >
The truth is a combination of the second and third options. All things must come from God. If you ever noticed in the 6-day creation story in Genesis, on the second day, there is no mention that '...it was good' or that 'God saw that it was good'. The explanation for that omission is that it was during that period that evil came into play. So says the Zohar, at least. Although 'malevolent' is a poor choice of terms; rather, events occur and 'seem' malevolent to us because we do not have omniscience and, therefore, cannot place any event in a full context. > On Jan 26, 4:48 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 24 Jan, 04:07, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You have no idea whether or not grasses are denying their fictional > > > gods. > > > > The problem here is that we are aware of only a single species that > > > invents gods: ours. > > > The terrible and violent death of people is not proof against god, it > > > is proof against a caring one. > > > When a theist provides evidence that the FSM doesn't exist, > > > It DOES exist!! Although it exists as an abstract concept. > > Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to refer to it at all. Existence > > comes on many 'forms'. As for God's existence, that depends on one's > > definition OF God. If defined properly, it MUST exist. > > > >I'll > > > provide evidence that his little god doesn't either. I do rest > > > comfortably in the knowledge that something that has no effect on this > > > world, leaves no evidence in or on this world, or is claimed as > > > simultaneously loving and murderous toward this world most likely > > > doesn't exist. > > > Charles Manson was very loving to his 'Family', yet was/is also an > > infamous killer. Do you think he exists? Poor logic!! > > > > On Jan 23, 2:07 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The haiti disaster did not just kill people. It killed grass, too! > > > > > But from the fact that grass died, nobody argues God is not. Why do > > > > they argue that because people died, God is not? > > > > > As Alexandar Pruss points out inhttp://bit.ly/7sSRUn"We are only > > > > really bothered by the problem once we deal with critters that are > > > > conscious and capable of sophisticated lives" Why is this?- Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
