I tend to see Molly's point, that a personal bias in itself may not be
the problem. And Lee's too, that personal bias may be the problem.
There's no conflict.

And, perhaps OM's ( yet unsaid ), that all bias is the problem
( ignorance ).

That's how ideas and beliefs are. Life and living however is a
different ball game, with unpredictables, irrational, warlike. I would
suggest we all keep a bias in favour of the good ( we'll ideate
later ...), of competencies, of understanding, of freedom, of positive
value, of opportunities to improve, of compassion, of fearlessness, of
non - violence, of freedom from subjectivity and objectivity, even
while using either as necessary ...

On Feb 3, 9:23 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ohh I'm not so sure Molly.
>
> What if such bias was demonstratedly wrong?  If a man holds a bias due
> to the colour of another mans skin, then that will cause problems in
> his assoctitions with others would it not?
>
> On 3 Feb, 16:19, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am not sure that personal bias in itself presents problems for us,
> > but judging someone else based on that bias certainly does, and
> > creates the tone for conflict.  In addition, if our bias is based on
> > fear - fear that there will not be enough for everyone, fear that what
> > I have will be taken from me, fear of anything, the fear immediately
> > puts us into an oppositional state and again sets the tone for
> > conflict.
>
> > On Feb 3, 9:12 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > We all have it, how does it effect us, can it be a hinderance to some
> > > things?
>
> > > Yesterday our office manager at work (a close personal friend) was
> > > walking around with one of those high visibilty patch jackets on, you
> > > know the ones that bikers wear over their leathers. (she was on her
> > > way home and yes she is indeed a biker)  It was bareing an ad for a
> > > rally
> > > agianst the proposed £1 parking fee for bikes in London.
>
> > > Traditionaly parking for bikes in London has always been free, but now
> > > of course we find that there are too many motor viechiles on the roads
> > > of our little island nation for traffic to move fast going anywhere.
>
> > > The major of London has implmented a congestion charge scheme for all
> > > those who wish to drive into the city and inner London, both to grab
> > > some cash and to ease congestion in inner London.
>
> > > When I saw this, the first thought I had was one which originated out
> > > of one of my own personal biases.  I thought cheeky cow don't want to
> > > pay a mimimal charge for parking her bike in the city.
>
> > > I belive that there are too many motor veichels in our country and
> > > that this number will only increase and so we must do what we can to
> > > limit the spread, make getting a licence harder, or even tax people
> > > out of owning cars.
>
> > > Let me add a little to this.  I am all for freedom of movment, and
> > > don't have anything against car ownership, or car owners apart from
> > > there are already too many of them and the situation can only get
> > > worse.
>
> > > Yet I do try to live a life that is not hypocritical and so I do not
> > > own nor intend to own a car myself.
>
> > > We can see what my bias in this matter is and why I hold it.  I'll
> > > admit that my thought certianly arose because of this bias, yet I
> > > think that my belife is a valid concern.  A £1 per day for parking
> > > your bike seems very little money to me, and I can't understand the
> > > concern that our bikers have for this scheme.  I certianly don't mind
> > > paying the taxes and extra chrges that I have to pay, yes even if I
> > > don't agree with something, yet can still see the need fot it.
>
> > > So what I want to know is how far can personal bias push your mind
> > > into not excepting something that if it wasn't for such bias you would
> > > actulay agree with?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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