And now a word from our thread….home schooling is *definitely* a basic human right…perhaps even a duty. However it should be applied in addition to public schooling.
On Feb 6, 6:47 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Doesn't seem easy to get the original intent of this thread back from > those intent on conflict, Alan. Your noble effort here however, is > much appreciated. > > On Feb 6, 5:09 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, education ought to be outsourced if "family is abusive or > > dysfunctional". That is consistent with the principle of subsidiarity: > > that the larger social unit exists to do things for the smaller unit > > that it cannot do for itself. Things like education, in the case of a > > dysfunctional family. The case is entirely different for a healthy one > > in which parents are capable of directly fulfilling their mission as > > the primary educators of their children. > > > On Feb 4, 3:47 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The family is the primary source of a child's emotional life/future so > > > in some ways it is better to outsource education to a larger theater > > > if the family is abusive or dysfunctional to attain some balance. > > > Additionally, all the learning, quickness of mind, readiness of > > > intellect and talent have to be fostered and nurtured lest they spoil > > > or die on the vine though sometimes this can be turned to > > > profit...depending. A major goal of parenting is to turn out self- > > > sufficient young adults- whether a cub or human; humans have been > > > granted a long period of time in which to raise their young- our > > > Designer was more clever and wise than we acknowledge! Conversely, I > > > see families who live in generational proximity who slog through the > > > years with a grumble and the young unwilling or unable to give up > > > dependency upon their parents. > > > > On Feb 3, 4:09 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "Germany does not allow home schooling. I am aware that the radical > > > > libertarian tradition in the US...gives home-schooling a certain > > > > cachet. ". Parents are the primary educators of their children, and > > > > the State plays a subsidiary role. On the principle of subsidiarity, > > > > the larger social units do things the smallers social units cannot. So > > > > if the smallest social unit -- the family -- can educate the children, > > > > they ought to, and ought /not/ outsource this to the state, who have > > > > the deck stacked against them (just look at the student:teacher > > > > ratio!) . > > > > > As for "learning social skills", what skills are, say, 20 fifth > > > > graders sitting together learning? That's not life; in life we > > > > interact with people of all ages. And this is the life experience > > > > learned when kids in 1-12 grade sit together and learn, as in the > > > > family home, full of life and love. > > > > > On Feb 1, 9:52 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > A German family has been given political asylum in the US because of > > > > > their refusal to send their children to school in Germany and the > > > > > subsequent, according to the US judge granting the application, "well > > > > > founded fear of persecution." > > > > > > http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,674492,00.html > > > > > > Germany does not allow home schooling. The article in "der Spiegel" > > > > > explains: "Mandatory school attendance is based on "the idea that > > > > > group learning in school also helps develop social skills," says > > > > > Martina Elschenbroich, an expert on education law with the Culture > > > > > Minister Conference, an assembly that brings together education > > > > > ministers from Germany's 16 states. Children learn how to interact > > > > > with people who hold different views, which serves as the basis of a > > > > > democratic society, says Elschenbroich." The German position has been > > > > > upheld by the European Court of Human Rights in 2006. > > > > > > I am aware that the radical libertarian tradition in the US (and the > > > > > impossibility of mandatory school attendance for many chidren in the > > > > > legendary frontier days of the 19th. Century) gives home-schooling a > > > > > certain cachet. On the other hand, it seems to me that it harbours > > > > > great dangers in giving all kinds of - sorry to be so blunt - nuts the > > > > > chance to indocrinate their children with rubbish. > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
