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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOZzNOkcEgM On Mar 7, 7:40 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > I am relieved to hear that there are still some Americans left who are > able to discern evolution from creation in their communication. > > I read that Michelle Obama reads Dr Seuss to school children, telling > them to always listen to the fish inside their belly and to always > tell the truth to their parents. What if I don't have a fish inside my > belly? Do I need to create one in order to not be seen as an intuding > outsider like the cat with the hat? > > On 7 Mrz., 07:37, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >http://rawstory.com/2010/03/top-homeschool-texts-dismiss-evolution/ > > > Top US home-school texts dismiss evolution | Raw Story > > > LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Home-school mom Susan Mule wishes she hadn't taken > > a friend's advice and tried a textbook from a popular Christian > > publisher for her 10-year-old's biology lessons. > > > Mule's precocious daughter Elizabeth excels at science and has been > > studying tarantulas since she was 5. But she watched Elizabeth's > > excitement turn to confusion when they reached the evolution section > > of the book from Apologia Educational Ministries, which disputed > > Charles Darwin's theory. > > > "I thought she was going to have a coronary," Mule said of her > > daughter, who is now 16 and taking college courses in Houston. "She's > > like, 'This is not true!'" > > > Christian-based materials dominate a growing home-school education > > market that encompasses more than 1.5 million students in the U.S. And > > for most home-school parents, a Bible-based version of the Earth's > > creation is exactly what they want. Federal statistics from 2007 show > > 83 percent of home-schooling parents want to give their children > > "religious or moral instruction." > > > "The majority of home-schoolers self-identify as evangelical > > Christians," said Ian Slatter, a spokesman for the Home School Legal > > Defense Association. "Most home-schoolers will definitely have a sort > > of creationist component to their home-school program." > > > Those who don't, however, often feel isolated and frustrated from > > trying to find a textbook that fits their beliefs. > > Two of the best-selling biology textbooks stack the deck against > > evolution, said some science educators who reviewed sections of the > > books at the request of The Associated Press. > > > "I feel fairly strongly about this. These books are promulgating lies > > to kids," said Jerry Coyne, an ecology and evolution professor at the > > University of Chicago. > > > The textbook publishers defend their books as well-rounded lessons on > > evolution and its shortcomings. One of the books doesn't attempt to > > mask disdain for Darwin and evolutionary science. > > > "Those who do not believe that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant > > Word of God will find many points in this book puzzling," says the > > introduction to "Biology: Third Edition" from Bob Jones University > > Press. "This book was not written for them." > > The textbook delivers a religious ultimatum to young readers and > > parents, warning in its "History of Life" chapter that a "Christian > > worldview ... is the only correct view of reality; anyone who rejects > > it will not only fail to reach heaven but also fail to see the world > > as it truly is." > > > When the AP asked about that passage, university spokesman Brian > > Scoles said the sentence made it into the book because of an editing > > error and will be removed from future editions. > > > The size of the business of home-school texts isn't clear because the > > textbook industry is fragmented and privately held publishers don't > > give out sales numbers. Slatter said home-school material sales reach > > about $1 billion annually in the U.S. > > Publishers are well aware of the market, said Jay Wile, a former > > chemistry professor in Indianapolis who helped launch the Apologia > > curriculum in the early 1990s. > > > "If I'm planning to write a curriculum, and I want to write it in a > > way that will appeal to home-schoolers, I'm going to at least find out > > what my demographic is," Wile said. > > > In Kentucky, Lexington home-schooler Mia Perry remembers feeling > > disheartened while flipping through a home-school curriculum catalog > > and finding so many religious-themed textbooks. > > > "We're not religious home-schoolers, and there's somewhat of a feeling > > of being outnumbered," said Perry, who has home-schooled three of her > > four children after removing her oldest child from a public school > > because of a health condition. > > Perry said she cobbled together her own curriculum after some > > mainstream publishers told her they would not sell directly to home- > > schooling parents. > > > Wendy Womack, another Lexington home-school mother, said the only > > scientifically credible curriculum she's found is from the Maryland- > > based Calvert School, which has been selling study-at-home materials > > for more than 100 years. > > Apologia and Bob Jones University Press say their science books sell > > well. Apologia's "Exploring Creation" biology textbook retails for > > $65, while Bob Jones' "Biology" Third Edition lists at $52. > > > Coyne and Virginia Tech biology professor Duncan Porter reviewed > > excerpts from the Apologia and Bob Jones biology textbooks, which are > > equivalent to ninth- and 10th-grade biology lessons. Porter said he > > would give the books an F. > > "If this is the way kids are home-schooled then they're being > > shortchanged, both rationally and in terms of biology," Coyne said. He > > argued that the books may steer students away from careers in biology > > or the study of the history of the earth. > > Wile countered that Coyne "feels compelled to lie in order to prop up > > a failing hypothesis (evolution). We definitely do not lie to the > > students. We tell them the facts that people like Dr. Coyne would > > prefer to cover up." > > > Adam Brown's parents say their 16-year-old son's belief in the Bible's > > creation story isn't deterring him from pursuing a career in marine > > biology. His parents, Ken and Polly Brown, taught him at their Cedar > > Grove, Ind., home using the Apologia curriculum and other science > > texts. > > > Polly Brown said her son would gladly take college courses that > > include evolution, and he'll be able to provide the expected answers > > even though he disagrees. > > > "He probably knows it better than the kids who have been taught > > evolution all through public school," Polly Brown said. "But that is > > in order for him to understand both sides of that argument because he > > will face it throughout his higher education." > > > Apologia Educational Ministries:http://www.apologia.com > > > Bob Jones University Press:http://www.bjupress.com/page/HS+Home > > > Jerry Coyne's blog, "Why Evolution is > > True":http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/ > > > Source: AP News > > > On Feb 6, 9:17 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And now a word from our thread....home schooling is *definitely* a basic > > > human right...perhaps even a duty. However it should be applied in > > > addition to public schooling. > > > > On Feb 6, 6:47 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Doesn't seem easy to get the original intent of this thread back from > > > > those intent on conflict, Alan. Your noble effort here however, is > > > > much appreciated. > > > > > On Feb 6, 5:09 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, education ought to be outsourced if "family is abusive or > > > > > dysfunctional". That is consistent with the principle of subsidiarity: > > > > > that the larger social unit exists to do things for the smaller unit > > > > > that it cannot do for itself. Things like education, in the case of a > > > > > dysfunctional family. The case is entirely different for a healthy one > > > > > in which parents are capable of directly fulfilling their mission as > > > > > the primary educators of their children. > > > > > > On Feb 4, 3:47 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The family is the primary source of a child's emotional life/future > > > > > > so > > > > > > in some ways it is better to outsource education to a larger theater > > > > > > if the family is abusive or dysfunctional to attain some balance. > > > > > > Additionally, all the learning, quickness of mind, readiness of > > > > > > intellect and talent have to be fostered and nurtured lest they > > > > > > spoil > > > > > > or die on the vine though sometimes this can be turned to > > > > > > profit...depending. A major goal of parenting is to turn out self- > > > > > > sufficient young adults- whether a cub or human; humans have been > > > > > > granted a long period of time in which to raise their young- our > > > > > > Designer was more clever and wise than we acknowledge! Conversely, I > > > > > > see families who live in generational proximity who slog through the > > > > > > years with a grumble and the young unwilling or unable to give up > > > > > > dependency upon their parents. > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 4:09 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > "Germany does not allow home schooling. I am aware that the > > > > > > > radical > > > > > > > libertarian tradition in the US...gives home-schooling a certain > > > > > > > cachet. ". Parents are the primary educators of their children, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the State plays a subsidiary role. On the principle of > > > > > > > subsidiarity, > > > > > > > the larger social units do things the smallers social units > > > > > > > cannot. So > > > > > > > if the smallest social unit -- the family -- can educate the > > > > > > > children, > > > > > > > they ought to, and ought /not/ outsource this to the state, who > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > the deck stacked against them (just look at the student:teacher > > > > > > > ratio!) . > > > > > > > > As for "learning social skills", what skills are, say, 20 fifth > > > > > > > graders sitting together learning? That's not life; in life we > > > > > > > interact with people of all ages. And this is the life experience > > > > > > > learned when kids in 1-12 grade sit together and learn, as in the > > > > > > > family home, full of life and love. > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 9:52 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
