I disagree, Orn; I have heard each of the points she mentions verbatim from members of this list. For that reason alone, I thought she wrote a robust, albeit reactionary, article on these points.
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > “I thought this was a very interesting and informative read, which did > a good > job of dispelling some of the pervasive untruths and misperceptions > regarding the faithless. Thoughts?” – CJ > > I started a detailed deconstruction and analysis of her piece and, > after almost an hour gave up due to the extraordinarily large quantity > of confused, opinionated and totally unsupported beliefs she was > presenting. At first I had hoped to have some true meat to deal with… > and perhaps even a lucid and accurate list. Sadly, I find it > extraordinarily lacking. Yes, without presenting my specific > criticisms I too can be charged with similar proclamations by opinion. > However, hopefully, if carefully examined, most can see how this > appears to be more of a reactionary piece…appealing to the people > using common memes rather than anything of either literary or > analytical rigor. It certainly does nothing at all like doing “a good > job of dispelling some of the…[myths] regarding the faithless.” Would > that it be otherwise! We atheists could use some unassailable clarity > and logic when it comes to such issues. Sadly, Ms. Jacoby exhibits > neither. > > > On Feb 6, 3:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > 1COM, thanks! That worked. :-) > > > > On Feb 6, 9:26 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I just clicked on the link in the first post of this discussion (Feb. > > > 3rd) and it took me to the article, which is dated Feb.2nd 2010. Try > > > this link: > http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/spirited_atheist/2010/02/a... > > > > > On Feb 6, 4:04 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Sadly, I got to the link long after the day whatever the article was > > > > had been printed...and can't find the original. > > > > > > On Feb 5, 11:10 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree that the article is well written and that her views may be > > > > > representative of many atheists. However, I have encountered a > > > > > plethora of atheists who speak as if they believe the majority of > > > > > people who believe in God are fundamentalist creationists or rabid > > > > > jihad'i terrorists; who talk down to the believers in the audience > and > > > > > tell them what fools they are, then, when accused of trying to > > > > > "convert" us to their belief say, "I don't care what you believe." > I > > > > > am tired of being lumped in with the foolish people who try to get > > > > > their literal interpretations of Genesis incorporated into science > > > > > curricula. (I believe in evolution and that science is as important > as > > > > > religion to the advancement of civilization, thank you.) I think > they > > > > > give religion a bad reputation, just as the more aggressive and > self- > > > > > righteous atheists give atheism a bad rep. I have no problem with > > > > > sharing ideas in a logical and open-minded fashion, but if you > > > > > disagree, support your argument with facts and logic, not with > > > > > diatribe and polemic. [Sorry, this rant was brought on by some > > > > > threads inhttp://www.philosophyforum.com] <[ :-)= Rich > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2:29 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/spirited_atheist/2010/02/a... > > > > > > > > I thought this was a very interesting and informative read, which > did a good > > > > > > job of dispelling some of the pervasive untruths and > misperceptions > > > > > > regarding the faithless. Thoughts?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
