I have heard theists and "spiritualists" make these assertion and accusations against atheists time and again. She is another person in a long list trying to explain to these people that they are wrong. Nothing bad about that. I don't often waste my time with people who believe these ideas to be true anymore. Generally, people who believe these about atheists can't understand the difference between evolution, physics, abiogenesis, or speciation. Yes, these are all different topics and yet the same people that accuse atheists of being part of a religion or having an underlying dogma can't quite figure that out... no matter how often it is explained.
On Feb 7, 8:47 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I disagree, Orn; I have heard each of the points she mentions verbatim from > members of this list. For that reason alone, I thought she wrote a robust, > albeit reactionary, article on these points. > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > “I thought this was a very interesting and informative read, which did > > a good > > job of dispelling some of the pervasive untruths and misperceptions > > regarding the faithless. Thoughts?” – CJ > > > I started a detailed deconstruction and analysis of her piece and, > > after almost an hour gave up due to the extraordinarily large quantity > > of confused, opinionated and totally unsupported beliefs she was > > presenting. At first I had hoped to have some true meat to deal with… > > and perhaps even a lucid and accurate list. Sadly, I find it > > extraordinarily lacking. Yes, without presenting my specific > > criticisms I too can be charged with similar proclamations by opinion. > > However, hopefully, if carefully examined, most can see how this > > appears to be more of a reactionary piece…appealing to the people > > using common memes rather than anything of either literary or > > analytical rigor. It certainly does nothing at all like doing “a good > > job of dispelling some of the…[myths] regarding the faithless.” Would > > that it be otherwise! We atheists could use some unassailable clarity > > and logic when it comes to such issues. Sadly, Ms. Jacoby exhibits > > neither. > > > On Feb 6, 3:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 1COM, thanks! That worked. :-) > > > > On Feb 6, 9:26 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I just clicked on the link in the first post of this discussion (Feb. > > > > 3rd) and it took me to the article, which is dated Feb.2nd 2010. Try > > > > this link: > >http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/spirited_atheist/2010/02/a... > > > > > On Feb 6, 4:04 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Sadly, I got to the link long after the day whatever the article was > > > > > had been printed...and can't find the original. > > > > > > On Feb 5, 11:10 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree that the article is well written and that her views may be > > > > > > representative of many atheists. However, I have encountered a > > > > > > plethora of atheists who speak as if they believe the majority of > > > > > > people who believe in God are fundamentalist creationists or rabid > > > > > > jihad'i terrorists; who talk down to the believers in the audience > > and > > > > > > tell them what fools they are, then, when accused of trying to > > > > > > "convert" us to their belief say, "I don't care what you believe." > > I > > > > > > am tired of being lumped in with the foolish people who try to get > > > > > > their literal interpretations of Genesis incorporated into science > > > > > > curricula. (I believe in evolution and that science is as important > > as > > > > > > religion to the advancement of civilization, thank you.) I think > > they > > > > > > give religion a bad reputation, just as the more aggressive and > > self- > > > > > > righteous atheists give atheism a bad rep. I have no problem with > > > > > > sharing ideas in a logical and open-minded fashion, but if you > > > > > > disagree, support your argument with facts and logic, not with > > > > > > diatribe and polemic. [Sorry, this rant was brought on by some > > > > > > threads inhttp://www.philosophyforum.com] <[ :-)= Rich > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2:29 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/spirited_atheist/2010/02/a... > > > > > > > > I thought this was a very interesting and informative read, which > > did a good > > > > > > > job of dispelling some of the pervasive untruths and > > misperceptions > > > > > > > regarding the faithless. Thoughts?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
