and you have no possible way of knowing my bias, my judgment or my abilities without referencing a statement. Without reference, you are attacking me personally by saying that I am biased and lack transparency, which can only be your opinion about my character. This is ad hom. <<Molly
It could be if you make it that way. Obviously I referencing the statement in the post I was replying to. You jumped in and grabbed the steering wheel with a comment and link that veer the attention away from the core of my comment. Basically you were saying stop picking on Vam and "Look" what is happening in your back yard. That is bias. You had absolutely nothing to say about my post on the Upanishads. Being biased and lacking transparency in written commentary is not a character aspect and to point that out as an opinion is not an attack. I've received more warnings and advisories from you since your mod position than I've had in the past two years. That must say something I'm sure. You can ride me and dissect my posts to the point of finding something wrong with them but that won't leave me much alternative. I've never felt the need to be walking on eggshells as I do now and truthfully that affects my ability to express myself freely. On Feb 8, 2:40 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > It is no more ad hom than Vam's post to me in which I'm labeled with > > anger, angst, frustration and as being riled. > > The big difference is, Vam was asking you questions about your > specific statements. You gave your opinion of my viewpoint, and were > not making a statement to a particular statement of mine when you > said: "Your bias is predominating your judgment and hindering your > ability to see things transparently." You are not referring to a > statement, and you have no possible way of knowing my bias, my > judgment or my abilities without referencing a statement. Without > reference, you are attacking me personally by saying that I am biased > and lack transparency, which can only be your opinion about my > character. This is ad hom. > > > > > What does your post or your link have to do with my post, besides > > nothing? > > Your statement referenced the slums in India, and insinuated that the > truth of the Upshad teaching is somehow less because of their > existance in your statement: "Never mind the Upanishads, I'd > rather understand how India supports slum dogs as a viable concept. > I > find it not only disgraceful but barbaric, primitive and > hypocritical. The movie "Slum Dog Millionaire" tells the story. Is > there some religious explanation for treating people like the garbage > they live in?" > - here, your statements make the equation between the religion of > India and slums. I therefore sited the slums in your state of Texas, > and asked what connection they had to the religion of Texans in my > question: "Does this have a connection to the positive aspects of > religion?" (the topic of the thread) This is what my post has to do > with your post. > > > I never suggested in any way that my sentiments were directed to of > > confined to any one area of the globe. As a response to the > > Upanishads (hello, Hindu?) I would think that any minimally > > intelligent person would understand my reference to the slums of > > India. > > Your language such as "any minimally> intelligent person would understand" and > > "disgraceful but barbaric, primitive and > hypocritical." and "treating people like the garbage > they live in?" indicates outrage or anger. We are only trying to > understand your statements. India was the only reference you made. > > > You turned it into a pot/kettle theme which revealed a defensive > > bias. > > Saying that I have done so does not demonstrate that I have done so, > but I will say you misunderstand me. I am saying that, unfortunately, > deporable living conditions exist for people all over the world. What > does that have to do with the positive aspects of religion? > > > > > On Feb 8, 1:45 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Your bias is predominating your judgment and hindering your ability > > > to > > > see things transparently." This is an ad hom attack, Slip, as it does > > > not relate to a specific statement that I have made, but rather, your > > > opinion of my perspective. As a moderator, I suggest you be more > > > careful in your phrasing and respond to specific statements that > > > others make. > > > > "Emotional retorts such as this irrelevant > > > link is clear example." Can a link be emotional? The link itself > > > provided factual information reported by the state of Texas, not > > > emotional opinion. As Vam also addressed your apparent anger here, I > > > will kindly suggest to you that the emotion you percieve may be your > > > own. I have no emotional investment here. > > > > On Feb 8, 2:37 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Your bias is predominating your judgment and hindering your ability to > > > > see things transparently. Emotional retorts such as this irrelevant > > > > link is clear example. Since when are you worried about thread > > > > integrity? > > > > > A better visual might be this:http://archone.tamu.edu/chud// > > > > > Which is in no way a comparative to India's > > > > slums.http://fotservis.typepad.com/photos/mother_india_calcutta_var/slums.jpg > > > > > The only real positive aspect of religion is its eventual self > > > > deprecation. Human compassion is just that, human compassion born > > > > from humanity. Religion is born out of a need to create social > > > > strata, the chosen people and the condemned and is ultimately a > > > > nuisance, a barrier and a hindrance to equality. > > > > > On Feb 8, 8:56 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The same could be said about what goes on in your back yard, > > > > > Slip,http://www.sos.state.tx.us/border/colonias/faqs.shtml Does this > > > > > have > > > > > a connection to the positive aspects of religion? > > > > > > On Feb 7, 11:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, and I'm so very touched by it. Never mind the Upanishads, I'd > > > > > > rather understand how India supports slum dogs as a viable concept. > > > > > > I > > > > > > find it not only disgraceful but barbaric, primitive and > > > > > > hypocritical. The movie "Slum Dog Millionaire" tells the story. Is > > > > > > there some religious explanation for treating people like the > > > > > > garbage > > > > > > they live > > > > > > in?http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfn... > > > > > > > Fraternity and Brotherhood? As long as you have the right brother? > > > > > > > I guess if you pile enough bullshit on top of the bullshit you won't > > > > > > see the bullshit, right? > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 9:10 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > How many here have read the Upanishads ? ! > > > > > > > > The two most positive aspects of religion are concepts of > > > > > > > fraternity > > > > > > > and brotherhood, in times when most of the world were barbarian, > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > one hand, and the practice of introspection or self - > > > > > > > examination, on > > > > > > > the other. > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2:50 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There have been many discussions here where the negative > > > > > > > > results of > > > > > > > > religion have been brought up as a side issue to another > > > > > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > I would like to start two parallel threads here, one about the > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > that religions and religious people have done in and for the > > > > > > > > world, > > > > > > > > and the other about the bad things that have come from, and > > > > > > > > been done > > > > > > > > because of religion. > > > > > > > > > In this thread, lets concentrate on discussing the positive > > > > > > > > contributions of religion. The good acts, the positive results > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > religious teaching, and the positive things that can be learned > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > reading the "source books" of religion, such as the Bible, the > > > > > > > > Upanishads, the Koran, and other writings that are considered > > > > > > > > "Holy" > > > > > > > > by any religion. > > > > > > > > > A historical time-line might also be useful, correlating the > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > and growth of each religion to historical events and trends in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > places where the religion was spread.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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