Molly, it's amazing how concentrated you've become, as to see ' the same ' whatever is in sight or perception ! I could say the same for Pat.
Here, however, I was referring to the beginning of the process of commitment to one's calling, whatever it be. On Feb 8, 9:41 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Would food, then be necessary in such a mystical state? Eventually, > yes, but not in the same way as one who, as you say, is not living > "religion" or faith. One in such a state would receive the necessary > food one way or another because the state itself is the mountain of > "the Lord Will Provide," where "And to this day it is said, "On the > mountain of the LORD it will be provided." Genesis 22:14 > > That is to say, one who is willing to give up everything, all > attachments, self identity, will receive back more than they ever > dreamt, and life itself provides for us. > > On Feb 8, 11:12 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Curiously, unless one is able to feel and live his or her ' religion ' > > even while starving, he or she might not even have begun being ' > > religious !' > > > On Feb 8, 8:34 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > yes, it is very difficult to think of religion when I am starving. > > > The Maslow heirarchy and all that. > > > > On Feb 8, 3:06 am, Dinesh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I tried to give them Upanishads, but they said they would prefer > > > > bread, clothes, etc. so I said 'you can sell these upanishads and get > > > > those in return' > > > > > Were it not for those in the slums in India and similar people in > > > > African and some asian contries, most of us with high standard of > > > > living wouldn't be living in those standards. > > > > > There is a mythological character in hindu religion who accumulated > > > > wealth and gave it away totally (Not as CHARITY, but as his > > > > responsibility) to start all over again, many times in his life. > > > > > Religion, IMO, doesn't have much to do with it, more of human nature. > > > > In natural environment the weak perish, but in human society, we are > > > > much devilish, we don't let the weak perish, give them a petiful, of > > > > what has been taken from them, as charity. Would the rich be rich > > > > without the poor ? > > > > On Feb 8, 9:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, and I'm so very touched by it. Never mind the Upanishads, I'd > > > > > rather understand how India supports slum dogs as a viable concept. I > > > > > find it not only disgraceful but barbaric, primitive and > > > > > hypocritical. The movie "Slum Dog Millionaire" tells the story. Is > > > > > there some religious explanation for treating people like the garbage > > > > > they live > > > > > in?http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfn... > > > > > > Fraternity and Brotherhood? As long as you have the right brother? > > > > > > I guess if you pile enough bullshit on top of the bullshit you won't > > > > > see the bullshit, right? > > > > > > On Feb 7, 9:10 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > How many here have read the Upanishads ? ! > > > > > > > The two most positive aspects of religion are concepts of fraternity > > > > > > and brotherhood, in times when most of the world were barbarian, on > > > > > > one hand, and the practice of introspection or self - examination, > > > > > > on > > > > > > the other. > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2:50 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > There have been many discussions here where the negative results > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > religion have been brought up as a side issue to another > > > > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > I would like to start two parallel threads here, one about the > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > that religions and religious people have done in and for the > > > > > > > world, > > > > > > > and the other about the bad things that have come from, and been > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > because of religion. > > > > > > > > In this thread, lets concentrate on discussing the positive > > > > > > > contributions of religion. The good acts, the positive results of > > > > > > > religious teaching, and the positive things that can be learned > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > reading the "source books" of religion, such as the Bible, the > > > > > > > Upanishads, the Koran, and other writings that are considered > > > > > > > "Holy" > > > > > > > by any religion. > > > > > > > > A historical time-line might also be useful, correlating the > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > and growth of each religion to historical events and trends in the > > > > > > > places where the religion was spread.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
