" the idea that gnosis or asceticism will lead to ascension versus re-cycling"
there is no difference between the two at some point, as one is the endless string of lives, and the other, all lives ever lived. Maybe I expect the impossible" from my view, the best way to explore possibility! " It is difficult finding my own way" there is no other when you are all others "little indication of a purpose" sounds to me like you are well beyond purpose in the conventional sense, the one that creates identity "just a little feeling that I am on track" are you more likely to continue on with this feeling, or without it? When there is no difference between the two, you will have it. "there will not be enough" ah! enough is, indeed, a state that many of us wander On Mar 10, 1:50 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3/8/2010 8:33 AM, Pat wrote: > > > I would say, definitely. Any spiritual fast-track can't be bad. > > Although there's a lot to be said for the spiritual school of hard > > knocks, in that the lessons learned are driven home harder. As far as > > I can remember, though, the true 'fast tracks' like "The Merkabah" and > > "Jacob's Ladder" are very rarely presented to us. Plus, if they ARE > > presented, they have to be recognised as such. I reckon your phrase > > of 'taking on the Demiurge' is similar to the story of 'Jacob > > wrestling with God' and thus, becoming Israel. Still, it was a hard > > task and maimed him for life. Whereas with true gnosis, if you have > > it, the only drawback is that those who don't have it think your > > insane...but you know better. ;-) > > Considering the idea that gnosis or asceticism will lead to ascension > versus re-cycling I think I will choose to understand, know, and remain > here for some time. If I have a choice that is, bliss gets quite boring, > and screw absolute assimilation. The idea that some continuation is > possible from life to life including memories sounds intriguing, but > maybe that's why I have such peculiar detachment and memory issues! (who > knows?) > > It may be that the ruminations of these concepts might cause an arousal > or development of an instinct, seeing them as arts or meditations on > archetypes and metaphor. What they might lead to, suggesting much more > than the words can portray. But I am a restless spirit, dissatisfied > with men's words and reasoning I gave them up mostly, then yearning for > foundations I find myself sifting through an endless sea of information. > Looking for what I do not know, something to connect with perhaps, > something familiar. > > Maybe I expect the impossible, left wondering what use I have for all of > this. The god of others has always failed me, that is what it always > was. Even reason and belief in skepticism eventually had > disappointments. It is difficult finding my own way, alone, and without > consolation. This is mostly pointless to say, anyone could point out > that most will probably feel like this at times, this for me is life. It > would be nice to have just a little feeling that I am on track, there > has been little indication of a purpose, even if it was to be restless > and never have confidence but to apply my energy in creating something. > > I do appreciate your intent and wisdom, but I think come gnosis, > nirvana, bliss, there will not be enough to ameliorate but complement my > nature -if I have a choice in it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
