That is what I am saying Rigsy. We do design our own morality. I for instance see nowt wrong in leaving the descicion of religous faith for my children up to them Other theists may well tell me that by doing so I am failing them and so act imorraly. Ethicaly though my morality seems to be in touch with the ethics of my society, and so I can say that such a stance is both moraly and ethicaly correct.
On 16 Mar, 11:08, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > It's maybe like the chicken and the egg. It depends, perhaps, on how > the terms are used and meant. I think of ethics as a philosophical > thing while morals as behavior but can refer to a business as > unethical but a war as immoral. Why would morals be a personal choice > rather than a system? If so, we could design our own! > > On Mar 15, 7:13 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heheh very strange what we all take as common knowldge isn't it. > > > I had always understood the diffrance between morality and ethics to > > be this. Morality is one personal definition on what is good or bad. > > Ethics is concerened with doing that which is right. So one > > descriptive and the other more concerned with the doing, or actions. > > > I had always had this in mind when talking about morality here. > > However a little while back, and by that I mean less than a year. We > > had another debate about morality, some questions where asked abotu > > what I mean when I say 'Moral' and when I say 'Ethical', it seemed > > that my ideas where just a little out and due to the helpfull people > > here I re thought teh definitions that i had always belived where > > correct. That is: > > > Morality is still ones personal opinion on what is good and what is > > bad, but Ethics deals with a more social morality. That is you and I > > could have differing ideas due to our morality, but our ethics come > > fro the society or other groupings we find ourselves in. > > > Now you say that this is also wrong? Hhahah gees, a little help > > anybody? > > > On 15 Mar, 11:54, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I disagree. Morality is not a personal decision but a communal one and > > > is not innate but taught by the family and society. Morals are loose > > > enough to change according to current trends and therefore not fixed- > > > they are a cousin to "situation ethics". > > > > On Mar 15, 6:31 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think that is wrong mate. Morality is no more than ones personal > > > > definition of what is right and what is wrong. > > > > > On 14 Mar, 06:27, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > And no: morals are not based on reason, ethics are based on reason. > > > > > Morals are the "spiritual " measure of right and wrong and ethics are > > > > > the intellectual/societal force that makes living in groups possible. > > > > > > Ethics are what we get when we apply logic and concern for others to > > > > > ourselves. Morals come from illiterate bronze and iron age paedophiles > > > > > and misogynists in silly little collections of quaint tribal > > > > > stories. > > > > > > On Mar 13, 4:32 pm, Staples <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Fiddler: > > > > > > > "Morals are far too fluid...to be a guide in any dilemma; > > > > > > reason...provides the ability to make decisions." > > > > > > > Assuming you actually meant this, you implied that: > > > > > > > 1. Morals are not a constant. > > > > > > 2. Morals are not based on reason. > > > > > > > How could anyone live with a system of morality like that - one > > > > > > divorced from rationality and is "fluid", e.g., changes from day to > > > > > > day - on what basis? Irrationality? I suppose so.- Hide quoted text > > > > > > - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
