uhmmm.  Who do you know that have not sliped up here and there in there life
time?  If you believe or you don't believe.  I have been watching lock-up on
tv real prison life..I feel like I will make it to heaven after watching
some of this show.  dj  ...

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:

> Morality is not a fixed system.  Morality is defined by various groups
> and adherence or conformity becomes a matter of choice.  Morality
> among Tibetan Monks is extremely different from Pirates.  Morality
> isn't universal by any means, in fact it is continually ramified and
> dichotomized by individual interpretation and preference.  The morals
> you conform to are the morals that are a constant within the
> parameters of your life and those others that choose to stay within
> the same parameters.
> This is not to imply that morality cannot become Universal but just to
> say that it isn't now nor do I see that it has every been. We can't
> even say that everyone on the planet thinks killing people is
> immoral.
> Morals may be based on reasoning but only by the reasoning of the
> individuals establishing the morality pertinent to their group.  When
> reasoning deems annihilation of a group a viable solution then
> genocide ensues.
> Religions throughout history have tried to establish a fixed set of
> morals by which all people could follow but it hasn't worked all that
> well.  Even the ten commandments have failed to stick.  Some just
> don't think it is immoral to covet thy neighbors wife.
>
> On Mar 13, 7:32 pm, Staples <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Fiddler:
> >
> > "Morals are far too fluid...to be a guide in any dilemma;
> > reason...provides the ability to make decisions."
> >
> > Assuming you actually meant this, you implied that:
> >
> > 1. Morals are not a constant.
> > 2. Morals are not based on reason.
> >
> > How could anyone live with a system of morality like that - one
> > divorced from rationality and is "fluid", e.g., changes from day to
> > day - on what basis? Irrationality? I suppose so.
>
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