While I understand your stance on the issue, I also see incongruity in the non-address of the overall complexity. We can't just placate the concerned with measures against cigarette smoke when there are numerous environmental toxins spewed out by government sanctioned entities. This is very typical of "clouding the real issues"; basically it serves as a distraction. You know what your stance is? It is admission that you are powerless over the real "Toxic" issues concerning the "Health of" people, which includes children. However you know that whining about second hand smoke is something the government will do something about. Then of course you can tell your children how wonderful everything is because there is a law that won't allow children to be subjected to cigarette smoke. "Okay Kids! Go out and breathe in the fresh air now that we rid your air environment of cigarette smoke" don't worry about all the other "Air Pollutants" you know those companies are "Too Big To Fail" so we have to let them keep poisoning you, but at least when you die of lung cancer we can say it won't be from cigarette smoke", sleep well my children".
On Mar 24, 12:24 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that the true difference is that parents and family members > are forcing this on children. Where environmental toxins are > inevitable, these are not inevitable circumstances that I'm > addressing. Also, when some entity such as government, corporation, > neighbour, city, etc., poison your child, you may sue them for > healthcare costs and damages. When a parent purposely poisons their > child in this fashion, it is simply allowed and not grounds for > intervention by those that actually care for the child as more than > some sick legacy... pun intended. > > Most of your listed toxins are both regulated and illegal to purposely > inflict on anyone. > > On Mar 23, 9:59 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well I got your view and your complaint but what do you think can be > > done about it. We are all forced to breathe exhaust and toxic dust > > with every breath we take. What percentage do you think cigarette > > smoke plays in the over all toxicity of breathable air? I'm not a > > smoker but I understand what you are saying; I hate the stink of a > > cigarette house. But to name a few........ > > > Nitrogen dioxide > > Ozone > > Sulfur dioxide > > Nitrogen Oxides > > Volatile Organic Compounds > > Free Radicals > > Particulate matter > > Carbon monoxide > > Carbon dioxide > > Toxic metals, lead, cadmium, copper > > Chlorofluorocarbons > > Agricultural Ammonia > > Radioactive pollutants > > Petroleum fuels > > Jet airline exhaust > > Cigarette smoke? > > > On Mar 23, 11:19 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am a smoker, and have been for decades. > > > > I am very angry at myself that I ever started. > > > > Any of you that have looked into my particular syndrome know that > > > breaking patterns is incredibly difficult. I struggle with this every > > > day and feel incredible guilt with each cigarette. I'm not asking or > > > expecting any sympathy, we all dig our own graves and build our own > > > cairns...barring outside interference such as violent death. I say all > > > of this in preface: > > > > Smoking in enclosed areas containing children IS child abuse. It is > > > poisoning, with knowledge and intention. There is no reason that any > > > person --given the wealth of knowledge available since the 70's-- > > > should smoke in a home or vehicle that contains children, even if it > > > only contains children some of the time. Yet another child that I have > > > the misfortune (job?) of advocating for is in a critical treatment > > > ward due to internal organ damage. The damage was caused by smoking. > > > > The most common defence that these child abusers claim is: "It's a > > > legal product and I have the right to use it!!" > > > > So is bleach! If you force a child to ingest it, you will be > > > prosecuted. > > > So is perfume! " " > > > So is (fill in the blank), " " > > > > I'm tired of people purposely harming children and hiding from justice > > > on idiocy as a defence. > > > > This isn't a slippery slope. No one is going after sugar, carbs, > > > cotton, leather, etc.. > > > > This is about a product that is nothing but a toxic poison to > > > children. This is about the murder of children, and the lucky ones > > > that live get away with a dramatically reduced health potential. > > > > Just as feeding a child rat poison, bleach, or arsenic and forcing > > > them to breathe exhaust, lead dust, or asbestos is illegal, so should > > > smoking in enclosed areas with them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
