So very naive...when it comes to propaganda and humanity....:-(
On May 31, 7:26 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought this piece from the Wikibook /Communication Theory/ was > interesting. > > "Techniques have taught the organizers how to force him into the > game... The intensive use of propaganda destroys the citizen's faculty > of discernment" > > "The more stereotypes in a culture, the easier it is to form public > opinion, and the more an individual participates in that culture, the > more susceptible he becomes to the manipulation of these symbols" (p. 111). > > Both Ellul and Lippmann recognize the inability of the public to form > educated opinions as a > whole. However, while Lippmann chose to focus on the idea that we should > accept the fact that it is > truly an educated elite that is controlling our opinions, Ellul chose to > focus on the fact that the public > actually has a need for propaganda. Ellul contests the idea that the > public is merely a victim of > propaganda. Rather, he states that, "The propagandee is by no means just > an innocent victim. He > provokes the psychological action of propaganda, and not merely lends > himself to it, but even derives > satisfaction from it. Without this previous, implicit consent, without > this need for propaganda > experienced by practically every citizen of the technological age, > propaganda could not spread" (Ellul, > 1965, p. 121)." > > On 5/31/2010 2:52 AM, iam deheretic wrote: > > > > > Been watching the news this morning,, > > > For some reason I am reminded of a magician with all the smoke and > > mirrors.I get the feeling these politicians and businessmen think I am > > dumb (I can only speak for my self).. I see the oil spill and I see > > al the finger pointing at Obama now if my memory is correct that was > > at least set up during the Bush era and they handled all the permits > > that means that it was actually approved by the republican parties > > policies not those of Obama. > > > This is a classic trick to distract attention from where the real > > action or this case fault lies.. Over here they are required to put > > on special equipment to prevent this type of accidents.. this is a > > direct result of the Regan Bush & Bush era. where the dance of the > > golden calf really took hold. You see wall street and Banks where > > they have to pay huge bonuses to keep the best of the best.. Yes the > > best of the best are the very people whose superb skills brought on > > the recession in the first place. > > > These problems and other major ones I feel if you clear away the smoke > > and mirrors it is the result of top politicians and political leaders > > of the world and in many many cases is is the result of their direct > > desire to enter into the dance of the golden calf.. > > > Allan > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Ash <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Heh, the smartest thing I said all day. I heard recently that the > > ethics problems we are seeing today is due to an imbalance of > > power influenced by the Vietnam draft. Perhaps even a little > > hawkish overcompensation. > > > Skirts, children, Hoover's military-industrial complex, terrorists > > protected by international trade secrets, and children with > > AK-47s. Oy! > > > I don't think the open science model will compete with the > > corporate/military influences over universities let alone brute > > force patent methods. Then there's always the national security > > card, your lab just got confiscated or penalized into > > nonexistence. Girls' toys sound more interesting. > > > On 5/29/2010 3:02 PM, Ash wrote: > > > On 5/29/2010 1:23 PM, archytas wrote: > > > I'm sure Allan is right about today's religion. There is > > some very > > real potential for real change through biochemistry at the > > moment. My > > view is conditioned by the bleak failure to realise we > > have to change > > the idiot social-economic monsters that screw us to be > > able to take > > advantage. Instead, we get ethicists educated by > > Frankenstein and a > > bunch of men who like to pose about in skirts and who make > > us very > > wary if they show interest in our children. I don't buy > > Gabb's boys' > > toys thing on this one. > > > On 25 May, 05:31, iam deheretic<[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Not sure,, but it does seem those the Golden Boys > > that we the cause of the > > last recession have not stopped dancing.. the cure > > for recession according > > to them is more greed. Oddly enough this actually > > started when Regan was > > president. and the poor economic policies he created.. > > the last depression > > in the US well it ended when people started caring > > about people.. > > > The US (and Yes I am American) unforunately has run > > up its national debt > > due to the weasels Bush's desire to be a great > > American War time president. > > Now the national debt is so large it can no longe > > build its way out of > > recession like it did last time.. This time they used > > the golden calf dance > > policy and tried buying their way out. > > > Until politicians learn sound economic policies like > > not spending more than > > you bring in , Actually working for the best interest > > of the people and not > > serving the interest of the Golden Calf worshipers. > > > This could easily turn into a rant of which I really > > know very little.. > > Allan > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > Be Paranoid. > > God is always building a better idiot!!! > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > Be Paranoid. > > God is always building a better idiot!!!
