People are connected to the Truth only in the way that bubbles are connected to the water body they are formed in , or rays of light are connected to the illuminating source.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:51 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Paranoid personalities, religious and other fanatics of varying types, as > well as pathologically naricissisitic personalities - to name a few such > catogories of people - are utterly convinced that they are connected to what > they calim to be the absolute truth - a truth claim that others - not > afflicted with such unbalanced perceptions - would and do righly classify as > distorted and delusional. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 8:08 am > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: THE MEANING > > I think that in the same way that we know what we believe to be true > is true, that is, by the way we relate to our experience and others. > The harmony or conflict of our experience allows us to distinguish > delusion and fantasy from what is real and awakened imagination. > > On Jun 14, 7:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > The potential flaw in the idea that we are all part of God therefore all is > potentially knowable is that without utilizing critical > > thinking how does one know that what they are assuming is absolute perfect > knowledge is not in fact simple delusion and fantasy? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 3:57 pm > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: THE MEANING > > > > Oh BTW, you can read his book for free on-line! Here's the link; > > > > http://www.psitek.net/pages/PsiTekSMTCAContents.html > > > > On Jun 11, 3:52 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Coue' Stated in his book "Self Mastery Through Conscious > > > > > Autosuggestion that it is; > > > > > "... an instrument that we possess at birth, and with which we play > > > > > unconsciously all our life, as a baby plays with its rattle. It is > > > > > however a dangerous instrument; it can wound or even kill you if you > > > > > handle it imprudently and unconsciously. It can on the contrary save > > > > > your life when you know how to employ it consciously." > > > > > On Jun 11, 1:43 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > When I was an adolescent there was a remarkable recurring event many > > > > > > mornings, I would wake up within the minute before my alarm went off, > > > > > > sometimes even within ten seconds. > > > > > > Interesting DB, I recently ran across mile Cou 's autosuggestion > > > > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mile_Cou). Even more interesting is how > > > > > > belief can unlock astounding properties, as evidenced by amazing > > > > > > examples of people and personal experiences. The limit is our > > > > imagination. > > > > > > On 6/11/2010 1:05 PM, DarkwaterBlight wrote: > > > > > > > The Doorway the 11:11 > > > > > > > This can presently be perceived > > > > > > > as a crack between two worlds. > > > > > > > It is like a bridge > > > > > > > which has the inherent potential > > > > > > > of linking together > > > > > > > two very different spirals of energy. > > > > > > > As we unite together as One, > > > > > > > bringing together our fragments of the key, > > > > > > > we not only create the key, > > > > > > > but we make visible the Doorway. > > > > > > > Thus this bridge functions > > > > > > > as an invisible door > > > > > > > or a doorway into the Invisible realm. > > > > > > > The 11:11 is the bridge > > > > > > > To an entirely different spiral of evolution > > > > > > >http://globalpsychics.com/enlightening-you/numerology/1111.shtml > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 12:54 pm, DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I will quote gabby in response to that; "Thanks for overstanding!" I > > > > > > >> will now direct you to the time stamp on my last post which I will > > > > > > >> copy and past for your convienience since your's will not reflect the > > > > > > >> same time; > > > > > > >> I guess what I'm trying to say is that we are already part of God and > > > > > > >> therefore eternal with God! It is beyond our comprehension for the > > > > > > >> most part but it is scriturally based that all things are possible > > > > > > >> through HIM! Molly has suggested and is correct in that it is also > > > > > > >> scriturally based) that these things shall be revealed to whom HE > > > > > > >> shall reveal it. > > > > > > >> On Jun 11, 11:11 am, DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> Please take note and google The 11:11 phenomenon! > > > > > > >> May love, light and laughter fill your day! > > > > > > >> D.B. > > > > > > >> On Jun 11, 12:20 pm, Pat<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> On 11 June, 16:17, DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> I guess what I'm trying to say is that we are already part of God > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > >>>> therefore eternal with God! It is beyond our comprehension for the > > > > > > >>>> most part but it is scriturally based that all things are possible > > > > > > >>>> through HIM! Molly has suggested and is correct in that it is also > > > > > > >>>> scriturally based) that these things shall be revealed to whom HE > > > > > > >>>> shall reveal it. > > > > > > >>> It may be scripturally based that all things are possible with God, > > > > > > >>> however it is not commensurate with logic, so there's a big > > > > > > >>> discrepancy between logic and THAT particular scripture. I would > > > > >>> opt > > > > > > >>> for the logic on this one. Revealing things, which are themselves, > > > > > > >>> already done is, of course, logically possible. And, of course, as > > > > > > >>> there is only One omnipotent being, only THAT power could reveal all > > > > > > >>> to anything. But the human brain could not retain it. Only after > > > > >>> our > > > > > > >>> consciousnesses are free from material limitations could this be > > > > > > >>> possible. What God can't do, for example, is to stop being God. He > > > > > > >>> may be omnipotent, but cannot stop being omnipotent and still be > > > > >>> God. > > > > > > >>> So, ALL things are not possible; rather, all possible things are > > > > > > >>> possible. And no one really needs scripture to believe that. ;-) > > > > > > >>>> On Jun 11, 11:11 am, DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Surely you would agree that since God is everything and we are > > > > >>>>> thus > > > > > > >>>>> linked to God that, we, therefore are linked to everything as > > > > >>>>> well. > By > > > > > > >>>>> virtue of HIS omniscience we, also, can tune into everthing! Not > > > > >>>>> all > > > > > > >>>>> things at any given time by any means but through HIM we may know > all > > > > > > >>>>> things as they are revealed to us. Certainly not godhood but God's > > > > > > >>>>> likeness DOES, in fact, include His power, even to create, as Ash > has > > > > > > >>>>> suggested in another post. > > > > > > >>>>> On Jun 11, 6:19 am, Pat<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> On 11 June, 06:43, Ash<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> Pat, couldn't Molly's view be reconcilable with a quantum > > > > connectedness? > > > > > > >>>>>>> Perhaps a matter of 'tuning' in? > > > > > > >>>>>> Well, it's difficult to tune into everything--even with the best > > > > >>>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>> variable resistors. And anything less than that would not > encomapss > > > > > > >>>>>> Godhood, as I see it. You can tune into several different > > > > >>>>>> aspects, > > > > > > >>>>>> but there is no way that we, as humans, could ever achieve > > > > omnipotence > > > > > > >>>>>> as our form (and the requirements of our form, like oxygen, food, > > > > > > >>>>>> water, etc.) has limitations that prevent us from existing in > certain > > > > > > >>>>>> places where these requirements don't also exist. We could try > > > > >>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> tune into the 'background radiation' in the hopes that it could > link > > > > > > >>>>>> us to the Big Bang, but even that might only result in an > > > > > > >>>>>> understanding of that Bang rather than lend us any glimpses into > > > > > > >>>>>> heaven, for example. Our quantum connectedness keeps us > > > > >>>>>> connected > to > > > > > > >>>>>> every other thing always, and that I firmly maintain and I > > > > >>>>>> believe > > > > > > >>>>>> there is no way to loosen that grip, as it were. However, it's > > > > >>>>>> no > > > > > > >>>>>> more than grasping a rope that's tied to a tree; grasping the > > > > >>>>>> rope > > > > > > >>>>>> doesn't make you one with the tree, although it does maintain a > link. > > > > > > >>>>>> In order to be the tree as well, you need to be God, as only He > > > > >>>>>> has > > > > > > >>>>>> the link to everything. > > > > > > >>>>>>> On 6/10/2010 7:24 AM, Pat wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 4 June, 18:20, Molly<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." - is how we > attain > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that level, through our own Christing. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Perhaps it comes down to believing, as the mystics do, that > > > > attaining > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the spiritual level of Christ is possible for man, and that > > > > >>>>>>>>> was > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> exactly the message he intended to deliver. Whether we assign > the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> term "Christ", or buddha or Bodhisattva, or Son of God, the > > > > esstential > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> idea is the same, as I see it. What we do ourselves, we do > > > > >>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone because through the eyes of God, we are everyone. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I do agree, but with the fact that 'spiritual attainment' is > > > > possible > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for us all, not 'Godhood'. None of us can be all that exists, > > > > >>>>>>>> as > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> rest of the universe would disappear if all the universe was > > > > contained > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in a particular human. I.e., that human, if they existed, > > > > >>>>>>>> would > be > > > > > > >>>>>>>> surrounded by vacuum and explode. Thus, there's little point > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > 'God > > > > > > >>>>>>>> incarnate' unless that is, exactly, the process behind the Big > > > > Bang. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> And, yes, I DO say that with tongue in cheek. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> You don't have to agree. This is my humble view. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 4, 11:22 am, Pat<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 4 June, 15:28, Molly<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "I cannot be you. Nor can I be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> anyone other than myself. These are not possible." > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this is where we part ways, my friend. I contend that we > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ARE > > > > all > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> others, and ourselves, the One and the Many. Within us, we > are > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Father, Son and Holy Ghost as realized in the moment through > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> awareness. "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: > and > > > > no man > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the > > > > Father, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. > > > > Come unto > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give > you > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rest." (Matthew 11:27 - 28) Someone who has realized > themselves > > > > as > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> individuals, and all others, "knoweth the son." The son > > > > ascended to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the father in us allows heaven on earth. There you have the > > > > heart of > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the Christian mystic teaching. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, but if 'No man knoweth the Son, but the Father', that > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> paraphrased for a modern reader: no man knows the Son, > > > > >>>>>>>>>> rather, > > > > only > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the Father (knows the Son). Then no man can attain that > > > > >>>>>>>>>> level. > > > > The > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> next phrase explains the get-out clause, i.e., "save the Son, > and > > > > he > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > >
