Now your talking!

On Aug 10, 9:10 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> You're right, of course.  Quoting a transcendentalist may have been a
> bridge too far.  You may find this method for cleaning your internal
> environment of toxic fear and doubt more to your 
> likeing:http://www.thefuckitway.com/ I was surprised to see this guy too in
> the popular Louise Hay lecture and publishing circuit.  It may just be
> an indication of our evolving culture.
>
> My point is, as Emerson points out, the more we dwell on the
> difficulties, horrors and hardships of the world, the more our own
> characters begin to reflect this with worry, anger, outrage.  We
> become what we rail against (paradox of the Pharisee.)  Our thoughts
> and emotions do make a big difference in how we experience the world
> (as well as our DNA according to Lipton).  Where (local or non local)
> we posit our awareness does reflect our character.  It doesn't mean
> all you have said is not real.  Indeed, it is real to those living or
> witnessing the experience and identifying with it.  We humans have
> much in common whether we are each aware of it or not.  We are each,
> who we are.  We are each, also, more.
>
> On Aug 10, 9:09 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is that all you can come up with; a subjective quotation?  The reality
> > of the world has nil to do with my character, perhaps the character of
> > others.
>
> > On Aug 10, 7:53 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a
> > > confession of character" - Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> > > On Aug 10, 7:17 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Cultural evolution is merely a bi-product of environmental
> > > > circumstance whether contemporary or prehistorically.  To suggest that
> > > > ancient ancestral people were lacking syllogistic capability is
> > > > inaccurate.  Cultural evolution in prehistoric era was based on the
> > > > same principles as today, that being communal assimilation and
> > > > adaptation to new environments.  People seek growth with similar
> > > > beings and therefore cultural evolution can be differentiated by
> > > > varying cultures.  We process more information today because our
> > > > environment has expanded thereby affording us more information to
> > > > process.  While on the surface it seems much progression has taken
> > > > place I don't see all of it as being based on individual conscious
> > > > choice but rather initiated by social dictates by select groups.
> > > > Pointing out freedoms of women, children and minorities is not enough
> > > > to establish an evolution when there are other groups that are non
> > > > conforming and in violation of the supposed evolution.  This is
> > > > evidenced, as Lee points out, by the numerous contradictions in social
> > > > behavior especially on a global level.  We are no more socially
> > > > integrated today that we were as cave men; they had clubs and we have
> > > > bombs. We are still territorial and oppressive to outside groups. We
> > > > use terms like "it is illegal" to enforce bias and discriminate, we
> > > > create laws that allow for the use of "deadly force" upon a suspected
> > > > threat and more jargon to initiate war.  This purported cultural
> > > > evolution is rife with flaw and fallacy.  I call it the "Disney
> > > > Effect" which essentially creates a facade to conceal the horror
> > > > behind the pretty picture.  Disney has for many years presented
> > > > animations of cute little animals playing in the forest and created
> > > > this image of loving and caring about nature while the reality is
> > > > this: Bulldozers come in and raze the land while killing and
> > > > displacing thousands of animals so that Disney can build their theme
> > > > park.  This is primarily what we have today; a facade giving the
> > > > impression we have progressed socially when the fact is the world is
> > > > full of horror, horrendous acts of violence, genocide and egregious
> > > > violations of human rights.  Aside from the subjective view and the
> > > > microcosms of change apparent here and there we haven't changed much
> > > > at all; we just have new tools.
>
> > > > On Aug 3, 7:46 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > All aspects of human civilization—language, art, aesthetics,
> > > > > technology, architecture, organizations, governments—depend upon
> > > > > essential human relationships for their evolution and expression.
>
> > > > > *   Question: What is actually evolving?
>
> > > > > *   Answer: The quality and quantity of relationships between people,
> > > > > assuming the form of shared meanings, agreements, relationships and
> > > > > groups of relationships. The cultural domain is inter-subjective,
> > > > > because it exists between subjects, yet is often not objectively
> > > > > identifiable. But the fact that these shared spaces of meaning are not
> > > > > objectively identifiable does not hinder us from experiencing them as
> > > > > being real. As such, the subjective world includes not only individual
> > > > > consciousness but the inter-subjective domain of relationships as
> > > > > well, making the interior universe much more substantial. These
> > > > > relationships are real, yet they exist in the internal universe. The
> > > > > evolution of this internal universe accounts for the fact that women,
> > > > > children, and minorities now experience and possess more freedoms than
> > > > > in any time in written history.
>
> > > > > What do YOU think?
>
> > > > > For more:  
> > > > > http://www.i-awake.net/2010/08/spiral-dynamics-introduction.html-Hide...text
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