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On Aug 5, 9:48 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hey Doug,
>
> That's a good point and one I did not think of.  I can't help but
> think though if such a state can be said to be evolution.
>
> If it contiunes this way, people wil form groups of which they will
> communicate with and groups of which they will keep away from(and yes
> this is the very way I approach life myself) then I can see the
> inevitable result would be commuinties divided by mindset and
> ideology, rather than geography.
>
> I'm not sure if you have ever heard me wax lyrical about what I think
> will be the way humanity goes, my ideas on tribalizastion and anarchy?
>
> This ties in nicely with it though.  Still dived commuinites
> eascpecialy divison along idelogical grounds is bound to bring with it
> much trouble unless we can agree on certian priniples, free travel
> between comminties so that people who have idealogical changes are
> free and unencombered to leave and join other communities is the very
> first, and the idea of 'leave them to it' is the second.
>
> I wouldn't call it evolution without these two principles being agreed
> and acted upon though, I would call it same old same old.
>
> On 5 Aug, 14:28, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I would imagine that anyone might 'evolve' to any degree on the
> > spectrum either way. I do agree with Molly's post to the extent that
> > as knowledge and awareness increase so does understanding and empathy.
> > Yes it is true that people are more aprehensive and tend to keep to
> > thier own but that's understandable. This aprehensiveness comes from
> > the awareness of negative aspects in society. This is not to say that
> > people are not forming better relationship but rather, are more
> > selective about the relationships that are persued. Becoming close to
> > those who live nearby can be dangerous these days. I spoke with an old
> > friend last week who used to live across the street fom me. A mutual
> > aquaintance lives next door to her and had been coming to her house
> > and talking to her boyfriend. She was a little nervous about his
> > presence at times but brushed it aside. Apparently the guy was coming
> > over at night when her BF was at work borrowing DVD's and she would
> > not let him in but he would come in during the day when her BF was
> > home. One night, she said, she woke up and the guy was in her bedroom
> > going through her dresser drawer. Her BF happened to be off this
> > evening and the left real quick saying he just returning the DVD he
> > had borrowed. The BF went after him and was going to kick his ass but
> > she stopped him from doing so.
>
> > On Aug 5, 8:22 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On 5 Aug, 11:26, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > I think I disagree.
>
> > > > In my little part of the world it seems that people are haveing less
> > > > to do with each other, I barely know my neigbours, we are still
> > > > fighting in Afganistan and Iraq, religious fundematlisim may be on the
> > > > rise.
>
> > > > No I see little evidance of any evolution of relationships, and see
> > > > some for the opposite.
>
> > > Could not the concept of 'evolution' be movement in either a positive
> > > or negative direction?  And your experience is simply evolution in a
> > > negative direction.  Remember: it's a spectrum!!
>
> > > > On 3 Aug, 13:46, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > All aspects of human civilization—language, art, aesthetics,
> > > > > technology, architecture, organizations, governments—depend upon
> > > > > essential human relationships for their evolution and expression.
>
> > > > > *   Question: What is actually evolving?
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> > > > > *   Answer: The quality and quantity of relationships between people,
> > > > > assuming the form of shared meanings, agreements, relationships and
> > > > > groups of relationships. The cultural domain is inter-subjective,
> > > > > because it exists between subjects, yet is often not objectively
> > > > > identifiable. But the fact that these shared spaces of meaning are not
> > > > > objectively identifiable does not hinder us from experiencing them as
> > > > > being real. As such, the subjective world includes not only individual
> > > > > consciousness but the inter-subjective domain of relationships as
> > > > > well, making the interior universe much more substantial. These
> > > > > relationships are real, yet they exist in the internal universe. The
> > > > > evolution of this internal universe accounts for the fact that women,
> > > > > children, and minorities now experience and possess more freedoms than
> > > > > in any time in written history.
>
> > > > > What do YOU think?
>
> > > > > For more:  
> > > > > http://www.i-awake.net/2010/08/spiral-dynamics-introduction.html-Hide...text
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