There is no need to be nasty , when you talk about reincarnation you talk in an authoritative tone . Do I tell you , Slip , to mellow down? When a person puts forwards his arguments he does so with confidence and it doesn't mean that he is looking for suckers to pay him respect and riches. I don't have to say again and again that what I am expressing is my viewpoint because nobody else is doing that. The problem is that we are so rigid in our beliefs and reasoning that we cannot bear what the other person is saying , at least that is true for some of us. If you keep on in this manner I don't think a discussion would be possible between us.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, but we have reached the apex. I never negated the existence of > spirit, nor soul but I surely don't go around insisting that my > theories "are" the way of it. You on the other hand are authoritative > in approach. But I think you are really just trying to express that > you have figured it all out and have put together something that you > have convinced yourself is truth and take on this role as teacher in > the hopes of developing a following of guru groupies looking for an > enlightened leader. I'm sure in time you'll have a gathering of such > because there are many out there wanting to be duped. In the meantime > don't try to purport to know what no one really knows. The ball has > been bounced around for thousands of years and still has yet to stop > bouncing. > > On Sep 6, 3:51 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > The individual identity is for a lifetime only just as this body. After > > death the elements go to the elements and the self-sense becomes one with > > the source of which it is just an emanation. As for proofs could you > kindly > > prove the survival after death of the individual consciousness. Could you > > prove how everything came out of nothing at the time of the big-bang. > How > > could individual consciousness come out of death , because in effect you > are > > saying that by negating the existence of the Spirit. > > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ..............go to the spirit? What spirit? What is this spirit and > > > what evidence do you have that it exists? Even if it is so how is it > > > that individual identity is lost? How do you derive such conclusion? > > > > > On Sep 5, 1:31 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The elements which make up the human body go into their elemental > form > > > after > > > > death and self-sense or consciousness go to the Spirit , or Atman > and > > > > loses its individual identity. > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ether-space? Is that like e-space? ;-) > > > > > > > The five elements "go back" or just remain a part of cosmos in > > > > > different form? > > > > > > > Do they really have to go anywhere? These elements are all around > us. > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 11:32 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > When an organism dies , the five elements go back to the five > cosmic > > > > > > elements and the self-sense goes back to the Atman ,or Spirit if > you > > > > > like. > > > > > > The five elements are-- Solid matter , air , liquid , > temperature > > > and > > > > > > ether- space. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:36 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Consciousness is not something out of the world , it is simply > an > > > > > attribute > > > > > > > of life. As long as an organism is alive it has consciousness > to > > > some > > > > > level > > > > > > > or the other. Mind and understanding are not intangible but are > > > merely > > > > > > > functions of different parts of the brain. We are connected to > the > > > > > Absolute > > > > > > > through our bodies and being alive is a proof of the existence > of > > > the > > > > > > > Spirit or God. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Molly <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Mind: All human beings share in being a part of, and connected > to > > > > > > >> Mind, the universal Life energy and source of intelligence > beyond > > > the > > > > > > >> brain. Because of Mind, we share in an endless flow of > wisdom—each > > > of > > > > > > >> us equally capable of being wise. > > > > > > > > >> Consciousness: All human beings share in the principle or fact > of > > > > > > >> Consciousness. We experience life. We also experience life > from > > > > > > >> different levels of consciousness—from truncated and > fear-based, > > > angry > > > > > > >> and insecure “levels” to grounded, secure, safe, wise and even > > > > > > >> enlightened states (Buddha Mind, Christ Consciousness, the > “Father > > > > > > >> within,” the Kingdom of Heaven.) If humans lived even a little > > > more > > > > > > >> often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, > from > > > a > > > > > > >> personal to a global level, would be significant. > > > > > > > > >> The principle of Thought, as a universal function, guides > humans > > > > > > >> either toward or away from non-violence, love and compassion. > The > > > > > > >> existence of a personal thought system, or “ego”—which we see > as > > > > > > >> simply being a sticky attachment to, or identification with > > > thoughts— > > > > > > >> trips up our noble aspirations for peace. Yet we have found > that > > > > > > >> teaching people about the neutral fact of Thought, and how it > > > creates > > > > > > >> reality for each of us (rather than attempting to change > > > “content”), > > > > > > >> allows people to shine the light of this principle on all > their > > > > > > >> thinking. Levels of consciousness jump as people gain > > > understanding > > > > > > >> about the formless source of all ideas, beliefs and opinions. > > > > > > > > >> When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just > a > > > > > > >> creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have > on > > > us > > > > > > >> begins to lessen. Lighter, gentler, more inspired feelings > arising > > > > > > >> from impersonal, or universal thoughts create kind and > selfless > > > > > > >> behaviors. We begin to realize we are so much more than our > > > limited > > > > > > >> thoughts. So much more than we ever “thought”! While > respecting > > > our > > > > > > >> own and others’ traditions, cultures and preferences, we see > > > beyond > > > > > > >> the forms that humans have created—and to the deeper truth of > our > > > > > > >> common divinity, our shared existence in universal Mind, > > > Consciousness > > > > > > >> and Thought … or in Life. From this vantage point, there is no > > > reason > > > > > > >> to argue, to fight, to hurt another. When I hurt you, I > diminish > > > me. > > > > > > > > >> So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple > > > > > > >> principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath > it > > > all, > > > > > > >> all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even > > > > > > >> enlightened. When the clouds of thought begin to part, they > each > > > take > > > > > > >> their unique and radiant place in being one in “six billion > paths > > > to > > > > > > >> peace. > > > > > > > > >> What do YOU think? > > > > > > > > >> See also Sydney Banks, “The Missing Link: Reflections on Life > and > > > > > > >> Philosophy” & other works. > > > > > > > > >>http://www.centerforsustainablechange.org/principles.php >
