Nice expose Slip.  Well said.

And since some have taken the privilege of denouncing what others
believe, I feel fully justified in saying that, IMHO, people who
believe and follow the ritualistic nonsense of religions and belief in
gods are simply deluded and misguided. Present company excepted of
course.

On Sep 2, 5:31 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like the first line rigsy, the connection/opposition of emotions and
> reason, and we should delve into that more deeply in the future,
> perhaps in another thread that you or I might start, but rigsy,
> seriously, the rest is so much a pessimism without value except
> personal blah blah.
>
> So atheists begin to sound foolish after becoming their own god. wow!
>
> Well that is quite the inference without basis.
>
> From what maze of conundrums have you exited to reach this conclusion?
>
> If you can please start with how an atheist who believes not in any
> gods becomes a god.  I'm confounded by this notion.
>
> So how do atheists sound foolish?  Is that "All" atheists or just some
> that you would denote as having this character?
>
> Scientists are the new "god" you say.
>
> Well how is that when scientists have a history that comprises a
> higher percentage of failure than success.  They still haven't found a
> cure for the common cold nor have they found anything significant in
> making life disease free. Scientists have fallen behind new diseases
> and viruses.
>
> Can you explain this idea of "tragic and idiotic fate" among modern
> writers and artists?  I'm not really sure what you are driving at.  Is
> it the affection you have for past writers whom you have a greater
> passion, admiration and desire for?
>
> I'm sure you are a very sweet woman at heart but there is some
> bitterness emanating from many of your posts.  I haven't really paid
> much attention to them until now that I see you are somehow still
> lashing out.  Please don't be offended, I'm just trying to get at the
> crux and soothe the savage beast.
>
> I'll pray for you if you think that is worth anything but personally I
> think it is the next best thing to the tooth fairy and a product of
> our fear of the unknown.  Exactly what do we pray to?  People have
> been praying for thousands of years and I think it is because people
> love to be duped as long as it feels good.
>
> On Sep 2, 4:39 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am getting more interested in the connection/opposition of emotions
> > and reason.
>
> > I think atheists basically become their own gods and begin to sound
> > foolish.
>
> > Scientists are the new gods and prophets of the "modern" age but they
> > are quite flawed in their magic and impact.
>
> > Artists- especially writers- try to create a view of life but have an
> > impossible task which probably accounts for such tragic or idiotic
> > fates among "modern" artists and writers.
>
> > Someone has prayed for me for 42 years- isn't that wonderful? :-)
>
> > On Sep 2, 12:06 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Consciousness is not something out of the world , it is simply an 
> > > attribute
> > > of life. As long as an organism is alive it has consciousness to some 
> > > level
> > > or the other. Mind and understanding are not intangible but are merely
> > > functions of different parts of the brain. We are connected to the 
> > > Absolute
> > > through our bodies and being alive is a proof of  the existence of  the
> > > Spirit or God.
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Mind: All human beings share in being a part of, and connected to
> > > > Mind, the universal Life energy and source of intelligence beyond the
> > > > brain. Because of Mind, we share in an endless flow of wisdom—each of
> > > > us equally capable of being wise.
>
> > > > Consciousness: All human beings share in the principle or fact of
> > > > Consciousness. We experience life. We also experience life from
> > > > different levels of consciousness—from truncated and fear-based, angry
> > > > and insecure “levels” to grounded, secure, safe, wise and even
> > > > enlightened states (Buddha Mind, Christ Consciousness, the “Father
> > > > within,” the Kingdom of Heaven.) If humans lived even a little more
> > > > often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, from a
> > > > personal to a global level, would be significant.
>
> > > > The principle of Thought, as a universal function, guides humans
> > > > either toward or away from non-violence, love and compassion. The
> > > > existence of a personal thought system, or “ego”—which we see as
> > > > simply being a sticky attachment to, or identification with thoughts—
> > > > trips up our noble aspirations for peace. Yet we have found that
> > > > teaching people about the neutral fact of Thought, and how it creates
> > > > reality for each of us (rather than attempting to change “content”),
> > > > allows people to shine the light of this principle on all their
> > > > thinking. Levels of consciousness jump as people gain understanding
> > > > about the formless source of all ideas, beliefs and opinions.
>
> > > > When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just a
> > > > creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have on us
> > > > begins to lessen. Lighter, gentler, more inspired feelings arising
> > > > from impersonal, or universal thoughts create kind and selfless
> > > > behaviors. We begin to realize we are so much more than our limited
> > > > thoughts. So much more than we ever “thought”! While respecting our
> > > > own and others’ traditions, cultures and preferences, we see beyond
> > > > the forms that humans have created—and to the deeper truth of our
> > > > common divinity, our shared existence in universal Mind, Consciousness
> > > > and Thought … or in Life. From this vantage point, there is no reason
> > > > to argue, to fight, to hurt another. When I hurt you, I diminish me.
>
> > > > So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple
> > > > principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath it all,
> > > > all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even
> > > > enlightened. When the clouds of thought begin to part, they each take
> > > > their unique and radiant place in being one in “six billion paths to
> > > > peace.
>
> > > > What do YOU think?
>
> > > > See also Sydney Banks, “The Missing Link: Reflections on Life and
> > > > Philosophy” & other works.
>
> > > >http://www.centerforsustainablechange.org/principles.php-Hidequoted text 
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