i believe it was the inca who said that all life is seperate but part of the same life force that radiates from the createor who is at the centre of the universe
if god lives in us wouldn't he share our experience , what was it , that which u do unto others u do also unto me, this from a christian veiw even marcus auralias ( you can easily argue ) held this point of view with god replaced as self , that which u do unto other s u do also unto yourself , would then be the wording DarkwaterBlight wrote: > How indeed! That was, most certainly, in jest at Allan's post about > punishment. > > On Mar 28, 12:15 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mar 18, 6:48 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of > > > that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I > > > sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being > > > all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, > > > God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects > > > simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'."- Pat > > > > > Allan, > > > How, then, could one be seperated from God? > > > > > "God is actually very fascinating being. Within his being the entire > > > contained.. As I see it the object is to be with our creator, as > > > Confucius > > > said To be in the presence of your creator is to be in heaven."- > > > Allan > > > > > Is it your understanding that, though within his being the entire is > > > contained, that somehow God might seperate Self from Self and be > > > absent from One's self? :P > > > > Well, how can an omnipresent God be absent from anywhere? > > > > > > > > > On Mar 18, 9:49 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 17, 3:14 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt "punishment" was in the dinosaur "vocabulary" but we have no > > > > > idea how they viewed and coped with natural disasters, do we? We have > > > > > no idea how early mankind dealt with disasters except to study the > > > > > apes and chimps, I guess. > > > > > > > "Where Was God" by William Safire was in last Sunday's NYTimes then > > > > > removed and so was any link as far as I could tell by Monday when I > > > > > thought to print it out. I finally found it through Google but the > > > > > link looks goofy so you are on your own. :-) He wrote this op-ed in > > > > > 2005 after the Indian Ocean tsunami and based his response on the Book > > > > > of Job re the questioning of faith in the midst of a natural disaster > > > > > and untold suffering. It tracks to humans being responsible to lessen > > > > > human suffering and injustice. > > > > > > > The world is so depressing. Please do not try to cheer me up. Thank > > > > > you. > > > > > > LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of > > > > that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I > > > > sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being > > > > all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, > > > > God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects > > > > simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'. > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 7:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 6:47 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Of course are not a punishment but rather a natural planetary > > > > > > > force that > > > > > > > though it is going to happen is not preplanned nor can it be said > > > > > > > that it is > > > > > > > in punishment.. those that say that I wonder about their > > > > > > > knowledge of right > > > > > > > and wrong. . but there are some people that you will never be > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > explain anything because they know it all and their minds are > > > > > > > closed. > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > It can't REALLY be a punishment, as we know earthquakes happened > > > > > > long > > > > > > before humans. I doubt very seriously if the dinosaurs viewed > > > > > > earthquakes as punishments. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > "Life" is also a cereal. > > > > > > > > > > I recently tried to convince someone that natural disasters > > > > > > > > were not a > > > > > > > > punishment from her God for those who do not believe. It didn't > > > > > > > > go too well > > > > > > > > and turned into an angry lecture on my part. Basically > > > > > > > > substitute > > > > > > > > "scripture" for "life" in a crash course of anthropology and > > > > > > > > spirituality, > > > > > > > > that's what it was. Why do I feel guilty?.. If it shakes her > > > > > > > > faith and hope > > > > > > > > I'll be damned, if she reflects and understands the larger > > > > > > > > reality it will > > > > > > > > strengthen. Sometimes to what seems at first an academic > > > > > > > > matter, with > > > > > > > > empathy and understanding, we find a great responsibility in > > > > > > > > the actions we > > > > > > > > take. > > > > > > > > > > Risk. Isn't there a song about life being a poker game? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
