Pat who is saying he is absent? Not me.. Allan On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mar 18, 6:48 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > "LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of > > that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I > > sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being > > all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, > > God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects > > simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'."- Pat > > > > Allan, > > How, then, could one be seperated from God? > > > > "God is actually very fascinating being. Within his being the entire > > contained.. As I see it the object is to be with our creator, as > > Confucius > > said To be in the presence of your creator is to be in heaven."- > > Allan > > > > Is it your understanding that, though within his being the entire is > > contained, that somehow God might seperate Self from Self and be > > absent from One's self? :P > > > > Well, how can an omnipresent God be absent from anywhere? > > > On Mar 18, 9:49 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 3:14 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I doubt "punishment" was in the dinosaur "vocabulary" but we have no > > > > idea how they viewed and coped with natural disasters, do we? We have > > > > no idea how early mankind dealt with disasters except to study the > > > > apes and chimps, I guess. > > > > > > "Where Was God" by William Safire was in last Sunday's NYTimes then > > > > removed and so was any link as far as I could tell by Monday when I > > > > thought to print it out. I finally found it through Google but the > > > > link looks goofy so you are on your own. :-) He wrote this op-ed in > > > > 2005 after the Indian Ocean tsunami and based his response on the > Book > > > > of Job re the questioning of faith in the midst of a natural disaster > > > > and untold suffering. It tracks to humans being responsible to lessen > > > > human suffering and injustice. > > > > > > The world is so depressing. Please do not try to cheer me up. Thank > > > > you. > > > > > LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of > > > that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I > > > sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being > > > all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, > > > God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects > > > simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'. > > > > > > On Mar 16, 7:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 6:47 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course are not a punishment but rather a natural planetary > force that > > > > > > though it is going to happen is not preplanned nor can it be said > that it is > > > > > > in punishment.. those that say that I wonder about their > knowledge of right > > > > > > and wrong. . but there are some people that you will never be > able to > > > > > > explain anything because they know it all and their minds are > closed. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > It can't REALLY be a punishment, as we know earthquakes happened > long > > > > > before humans. I doubt very seriously if the dinosaurs viewed > > > > > earthquakes as punishments. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ash <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > "Life" is also a cereal. > > > > > > > > > I recently tried to convince someone that natural disasters > were not a > > > > > > > punishment from her God for those who do not believe. It didn't > go too well > > > > > > > and turned into an angry lecture on my part. Basically > substitute > > > > > > > "scripture" for "life" in a crash course of anthropology and > spirituality, > > > > > > > that's what it was. Why do I feel guilty?.. If it shakes her > faith and hope > > > > > > > I'll be damned, if she reflects and understands the larger > reality it will > > > > > > > strengthen. Sometimes to what seems at first an academic > matter, with > > > > > > > empathy and understanding, we find a great responsibility in > the actions we > > > > > > > take. > > > > > > > > > Risk. Isn't there a song about life being a poker game? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
