few things are truly nessessary ~ what is the right path for one person , might not pertain to the next, but the diversity of one persons experience can be helpfull to the next , it is an open mind mind by both that is nessessary ( for learning ) even if through there experiences u belive a person has arrived at an unsound conclusion , to put your self in their shoes you gain perspective on your own thoughts and the thoughts of others ~ exostental ?spelling? i think its called
to say it cant be a spiritual thing because you can find it in a microscope ? god can make gods world work any way he wants it to. if he wants a plant to stimulate the brain in to being more resepitive to an otherwise unexperiancable perspective he can ornamentalmind wrote: > Bryan, see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen > > > On Mar 30, 11:10 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > > entheogens? > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind wrote: > > > Entheogens have their function and they are not necessary either. > > > > > On Mar 29, 11:05 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ;o) good to see you are still around Matthijs, > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Matthijs > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, hope you all do fine after such a long time. > > > > > > > On the subject, in my wild years I used to smoke marijuana in the > > > > > weekends. On one of those Saturday nights my friends bought space-cake > > > > > I decided not to take it but put in my jacked. So I went to the bar > > > > > had some beer. Being a little tipsy and tired I went home. On the way > > > > > home I got hungry so I ate the cake in my pocket. At home I went > > > > > upstairs to bed. Then something incredible happened. While I was > > > > > sleeping I remember thinking about god, and then I felt it: Gods love > > > > > in everything, I put on my headphone, because I really made it to > > > > > heaven, listening to dire straits. I remember crying, feeling heaven > > > > > all around me like a warm blanket, damn it was so beautiful. So I went > > > > > downstairs thanking my mother and father for there love, they were > > > > > flabbergasted. Woke my sister and embraced her, I felt the love that > > > > > is the key of life. Went downstairs and fell asleep on the couch. > > > > > I still believe that I was touched by something that evening, some may > > > > > say I O.D. This experience was for me way to powerful to be space-cake > > > > > and beer. It just helped me open my eyes that evening to see God. > > > > > There is a big difference between knowing and feeling God. Some people > > > > > found it with teonanácatl. Well, I did it with some cake. > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > Matthijs Dokter > > > > > > > On 22 mrt, 09:00, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Bryan .. actual I think this is am interesting thought worth > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > "Are we human beings that have spiritual experience , or spiritual > > > > > > beings haveing a human experience ?" > > > > > > > > Never have looked at the idea from this angle or at least from > > > > > > these > > > > > words. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
