Of course not all people are alike and what happens in East Cleveland is no mirror of the rest of the world.
Perhaps it is a function of my age but rest assured my word is still very much my bond, I am not the only, my 18 year male child has a fine (according to my POV) morality and is already also a man of his word. Theer are many, many things that fail to pull society up, but I really do not sense that society has or is being dragged down. To do so means we must have reached a high point at some time, I see no forward movement as I see no backwards movement. I hesitate to use the word stagnent, as that depicts no movement, perhaps then swaying to and fro is the mental image I wish to paint. Yes that sorta sums it up I think. Society moves both up and down, and side to side, but it is not progresive movement, it is just moveing. On Mar 30, 11:39 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > in the past people didnt toss words lightly, a mans word who he was , > this was common dont ask 4 ref., seems to me if a person tosses words > lightly ,it because they dont respect others and there for deserve no > respect from others , these typs of people are a big part of what > drags society down, dispicable. > > i live in east cleveland (in top 10 murder rate in america), here u > cross someone w- ur word youd better be reddy to defend your statment > in a very literal way ! > > > > the taoist shaman wrote: > > doug if i didnt specify global youd probably find some falt in that > > too > > > the taoist shaman wrote: > > > allin my reference point is still obsevabe today , a time befor > > > building with stone, a time living in huts , cabbins , tents, in > > > nature with nature, tribe like > > > > On Mar 30, 1:48 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > if u tell yourself you cant make change in the world your right ~ > > > > actionless abomitable stagnation , > > > > > through a rock in the water , u see the ripple , but underneeth the > > > > surface , the view is merky. > > > > > rigsy03 wrote: > > > > > Or treading water? > > > > > > But we must not be so proud to think we can change the ways of the > > > > > world. Does evil exist to spur virtue- like kind of a shock? > > > > > > I do see forward improvements in my family from my parents to my > > > > > children and grandchildren so something took place. MOI! :-) I am > > > > > laughing... > > > > > > On Mar 30, 4:00 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I would guess we are staying roughtly in the same place. > > > > > > > We still have war, we still have despots clinging to power we still > > > > > > have shady democracy and the haves and have nots. We have > > > > > > patriotism, > > > > > > we have religious strife, we have those that are oppresed and those > > > > > > that oppress. No we have not moved far at all in the millenia that > > > > > > our species ceased to crawl on four legs. > > > > > > > On Mar 30, 7:18 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > what is the reference point we are to to use in determining this > > > > > > > question > > > > > > > from? > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:43 AM, the taoist shaman > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > for me its easy to say to myself , " its doing bolth" but > > > > > > > > thats ....... , eather vary simple minded or very profound or > > > > > > > > ...... > > > > > > > > bolth , oh no , i think i brained my damage , i mean drained my > > > > > > > > bamage > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
