Don't such orbits require a phenominal amount of resource. I only wish
we could feel secure enough to devote the resources devoted to
security to such ventures.

Malc

On Apr 9, 4:50 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:32 PM, ornamentalmind
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > “ It is also known based on today's science that 'we' can't make it in
> > outer space nor on most other planets. “ – OM
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> > “Can you provide some supporting information for this statement? AFAIK
> > the only thing stopping us from establishing bases on everything
> > except the gas giants is money. The technology is there it just the
> > funds that aren't.” – Chuck
>
> > OK, first for the ‘we’ (read: body) part, I’ll post only a few of the
> > Google hits from the first page when one searches for “body decay
> > during space flight”.
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> >http://journalofcosmology.com/Mars148.html
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> >http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/pdf/educator-microgravity_science_stu.pdf
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> >http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007(02)00930-9/abstract
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> >http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/02144/text/travel/body.htm
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> > There are countermeasures to all of the links you provide and all of those
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> countermeasures are within our technological capability.
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> > Now for the ‘outer space’ part... when one Googles “effects of
> > radioactivity in space travel” a few of the first ‘hits’ include:
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> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_adaptation_to_spaceflight
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> >http://www.dnaindia.com/health/report_astronauts-could-face-heart-pro...
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> >http://www.nature.com/embor/journal/v4/n11/full/embor7400016.html
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> >http://www.nukes.org/alien/alienlinks.html
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> > It's fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Current technology
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> allows lead shielding and if mass isn't an issue - the case in permanent
> cycling transport systems - you can use lunar basalt. A 3' thick layer can
> shield better than the atmosphere of earth.
>
> > Now for the last part of my post: “most other planets” (are not able
> > to support human life)
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> > One would think that this is obvious just on the surface of it, no?
> > I’m not talking about a movie, I’m talking about actually getting to a
> > planet and then trying to live there.
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> Mars and possibly Venus are the only two planets with even a vague chance of
> terraforming. But, it's pretty much a given that we would live in artificial
> habitats no matter where we were.
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> > All I was claiming…and accurately so, was that today, human beings
> > could not survive the long journey to a planet that could support
> > human life. And, that there are so few…if any such planets that to
> > dream about space travel and similar adventuring is pure fantasy. By
> > all means, if it is what turns you on…go for it. Just be advised that
> > such ruminations are not reality today.
>
> Actually, what you were claiming was that we don't have the technological
> capability to do so. That was, and still remains incorrect.
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> > Oh, and I haven’t even addressed what we both already knew…the funding
> > issue let alone that those who have been sent up for short periods of
> > time have been some of the most carefully selected humans on the
> > planet. Don’t try sending our ‘average’ human being even on a long
> > orbit around the earth let alone the light years necessary to travel
> > to a planet that *possibly* could support human life.
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> We've already sent 'average' human beings on long orbits around the earth.
> Do a google search on russian space tourists.
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