I'm sorry, but I'm not quite sure I get what you mean. The "first direct
reference to the history behind this clash" was silently deleted by Orn, if
that's what you mean. But then there is no clash. Silent deletion makes no
sound. Also I don't see a versus in Buddhist and Western. Orn is a typical
American Buddhist and he is happy with it. There is no internal struggle.
All is just appearances which is why deleting or promoting doesn't mean
anything to him.

I am sorry to disappoint you Ash, but there is no competing theories here.
All is one. OM.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just finished the doc, intermittently disrupted for cleaning house and
> watching my older 'squirt'. ;) Sorry, bad joke, but my fiancee actually came
> up with it!
>
> I believe this is the first direct reference to the history behind this
> clash since I came here, it might give some depth but doesn't  deal directly
> with the materials presented gabby. The first batch of links is pretty
> elementary stuff but the discussion of Buddhist perspectives on thought vs
> the 'Cartesian' Western materialism is definitely on subject. In fact it
> cuts right into the heart of my own internal struggle for truth so I find it
> very informative and valuable. However I am still considering where my own
> experiences lie in relation, though it is definitely in the right field,
> there is a large part undiscussed in it's body. Consider this an impromptu
> response Orn if you wish, I am working to sort out my own head still. More
> later, this is the merry chase!
>
> And gabby if you would present a competing theory, just as I asked of
> OrnamentalMind, I would greatly appreciate it. The more we get on the table
> the better eh?
>

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