Hey, lets not knock the personal choices of the wealthy; they have as
much right to splash their dollars around as we have to splash our
ideas around :)

Or maybe we're living the trance right now :)


On Jun 8, 12:45 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> As to education and parasites archytas, here in the colonies the art
> of plutocracy remains firmly in place.
>
> Countless excellent examples are noted as side comments in the main
> stream media today.
>
> I’ve mentioned the Koch Brothers 
> before.http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
>
> Newer info on them for the 'right' can be found 
> here:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/08/koch-b...
>
> Their purchasing of Florida State’s department of economy along with
> who will be hired to teach is but one example and is well known.
>
> Overall, few if any of the reasons for said trance are accidental. I
> say this fully agreeing with archytas’ analysis… merely expanding on
> the ‘reasons’ involved.
>
> On Jun 7, 3:50 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To change, we probably have to break a trance.  I don't think humans
> > are competent to bring the change through planning.  Stuff is
> > happening - our abilities to talk and access history are improving
> > through the Internet.  But they may be about to bring ands end to all
> > this.  We need to know how little effort is needed to provide basics
> > and prevent banditry and a lot about the current role of parasitic
> > money and be able to get people up to speed on this.  I believe very
> > little 'work' really needs to be done and parasitic money could be
> > replaced.  I'd have this dialogue first, but one has to wonder why we
> > haven't had it up to now.  Instead, we have work ethic ideologies and
> > ejukation that avoids important questions altogether.  I believe they
> > exploit a well known human frailty in preventing all this, one it is
> > dangerous to bring into the open.
>
> > On Jun 7, 8:25 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Because of debt, obviously, but also because of the false role the
> > > financial instiutions/markets play with our economy. I can't think of
> > > a nation or empire that lasted very long with an empty treasury.
> > > Perhaps we are another example of Marx- alienation and fetishism. Lady
> > > Gaga, anyone? She's enormously popular but to me she looks like she
> > > belongs in a Diane Arbus photo exhibit. Anyway, that would be a
> > > discussion of worth and value and America has been sort of a
> > > dreamscape for the opportunistic- good or bad. I'm not sure I have
> > > expectations about politics anymore.
>
> > > On Jun 6, 10:53 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I think political philosophy (philosophy in general, actually) is good
> > > > food for the mind; enjoy...
>
> > > > Why do governments and budgets/business seem bankrupt to you? Are you
> > > > benchmarking them against some expectation set you might hold?
>
> > > > On Jun 6, 12:21 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I am just starting a section on political philosophy in  my reading so
> > > > > I am not up to it...yet! I did learn I am not a Hedonist, a Cynic, or
> > > > > Stoic and my Christian background is tattered or a lovely quilt
> > > > > depending on one's point of view.
>
> > > > > The remark is cleverly put since government and budgets/business seem
> > > > > bankrupt to me. But what do I know?
>
> > > > > On Jun 6, 6:09 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > A friend said to me the other day "The sole difference between
> > > > > > Politics and Business is one of Currency"; initially, i thought that
> > > > > > this might be a simplification too far, and unduly cynical perhaps
> > > > > > (though i dont believe he meant it in a perjorative sense); yet, the
> > > > > > more i think about it, the more difficult it is for me to refute.
>
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