I didn't mean that, o'mind; apologies if i gave the impression.

You have to agree though, that one of the joys of making money is
deciding how to spend it; within reason, of course.


On Jun 9, 1:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see. Thanks paradox.
>
> It just sounded like you were attributing the right to use money for
> any end one wishes to no matter how it affects others. Perhaps you
> didn't mean to say that.
>
> On Jun 8, 1:26 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> > Oh goodness no, o'mind. Even if we could figure out what was "might"
> > and what was "right", we'd still have to figure out which was right
> > and which was might. In this context, money changes lives and ideas
> > move mountains. Which is right, and which is might? In any event, we'd
> > be measuring apples and pears.
>
> > On Jun 8, 6:30 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > So paradox, you embrace the idea that might makes right, yes?
>
> > > On Jun 8, 9:56 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, lets not knock the personal choices of the wealthy; they have as
> > > > much right to splash their dollars around as we have to splash our
> > > > ideas around :)
>
> > > > Or maybe we're living the trance right now :)
>
> > > > On Jun 8, 12:45 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > As to education and parasites archytas, here in the colonies the art
> > > > > of plutocracy remains firmly in place.
>
> > > > > Countless excellent examples are noted as side comments in the main
> > > > > stream media today.
>
> > > > > I’ve mentioned the Koch Brothers 
> > > > > before.http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
>
> > > > > Newer info on them for the 'right' can be found 
> > > > > here:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/08/koch-b...
>
> > > > > Their purchasing of Florida State’s department of economy along with
> > > > > who will be hired to teach is but one example and is well known.
>
> > > > > Overall, few if any of the reasons for said trance are accidental. I
> > > > > say this fully agreeing with archytas’ analysis… merely expanding on
> > > > > the ‘reasons’ involved.
>
> > > > > On Jun 7, 3:50 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > To change, we probably have to break a trance.  I don't think humans
> > > > > > are competent to bring the change through planning.  Stuff is
> > > > > > happening - our abilities to talk and access history are improving
> > > > > > through the Internet.  But they may be about to bring ands end to 
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > this.  We need to know how little effort is needed to provide basics
> > > > > > and prevent banditry and a lot about the current role of parasitic
> > > > > > money and be able to get people up to speed on this.  I believe very
> > > > > > little 'work' really needs to be done and parasitic money could be
> > > > > > replaced.  I'd have this dialogue first, but one has to wonder why 
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > haven't had it up to now.  Instead, we have work ethic ideologies 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > ejukation that avoids important questions altogether.  I believe 
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > exploit a well known human frailty in preventing all this, one it is
> > > > > > dangerous to bring into the open.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 7, 8:25 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Because of debt, obviously, but also because of the false role the
> > > > > > > financial instiutions/markets play with our economy. I can't 
> > > > > > > think of
> > > > > > > a nation or empire that lasted very long with an empty treasury.
> > > > > > > Perhaps we are another example of Marx- alienation and fetishism. 
> > > > > > > Lady
> > > > > > > Gaga, anyone? She's enormously popular but to me she looks like 
> > > > > > > she
> > > > > > > belongs in a Diane Arbus photo exhibit. Anyway, that would be a
> > > > > > > discussion of worth and value and America has been sort of a
> > > > > > > dreamscape for the opportunistic- good or bad. I'm not sure I have
> > > > > > > expectations about politics anymore.
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 6, 10:53 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I think political philosophy (philosophy in general, actually) 
> > > > > > > > is good
> > > > > > > > food for the mind; enjoy...
>
> > > > > > > > Why do governments and budgets/business seem bankrupt to you? 
> > > > > > > > Are you
> > > > > > > > benchmarking them against some expectation set you might hold?
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 12:21 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > I am just starting a section on political philosophy in  my 
> > > > > > > > > reading so
> > > > > > > > > I am not up to it...yet! I did learn I am not a Hedonist, a 
> > > > > > > > > Cynic, or
> > > > > > > > > Stoic and my Christian background is tattered or a lovely 
> > > > > > > > > quilt
> > > > > > > > > depending on one's point of view.
>
> > > > > > > > > The remark is cleverly put since government and 
> > > > > > > > > budgets/business seem
> > > > > > > > > bankrupt to me. But what do I know?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 6:09 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > A friend said to me the other day "The sole difference 
> > > > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > > Politics and Business is one of Currency"; initially, i 
> > > > > > > > > > thought that
> > > > > > > > > > this might be a simplification too far, and unduly cynical 
> > > > > > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > > > > > (though i dont believe he meant it in a perjorative sense); 
> > > > > > > > > > yet, the
> > > > > > > > > > more i think about it, the more difficult it is for me to 
> > > > > > > > > > refute.
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