I think the topic fits, Allan- economics is an end-product of philosophy/ideology/religion along with some other real life categories and perhaps is the acid test of all those lofty theoretical doctrines.
You know it is the middle class and poor that will bear the brunt. They have already started as personal wealth and security have shrunk- house/property values, retirement funds, employment opportunities etc. Plus- no one knows what is coming. On Jun 22, 1:04 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Lord lord what did I start here. > > I was listening to the TV News the truth is I was shocked. Greece is having > to sell its national assets to pay off the debt.. This is crazy you use > your adjust assets to so they are generating an ongoing income to pay. > these are not financial people with valid concepts on how to handle debt > but people with out a clue.. I notice that there is no demands that the > extremely wealth people of Greece be taxed at a higher rate.. it is okay > for them to run around and let the country that made them wealthy to fall > into debt.. > > National power would allow you to increase rates for electricity.. ports > allow for increased port fees.. reduced wages for legislators.. smaller > armies.. the list goes on with out selling national assets.. you can sell > a national owned island, then charge real estate taxes nice and fat if > you can afford an island you can afford the taxes > > I think the world bank is a phony as hell and I am glad to see the ex head > of it facing rape charges,, he sure as hell raped the hell out of Greece and > no vasoline ti lubricate and ease the pain. > Allan. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:25 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I filled half a sheet of notebook paper with additional ideas. :-) > > > On Jun 20, 7:39 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rigsy take the position of absolute power where everyone had no other > > > choice as how to respond.. > > > > Clinton lowered the national debt.. Regan along with bush and Bush have > > > done nothing except but raise and now Obama is having to deal with their > > > disaster that has taken them over twenty years to create... and I would > > > rather see it spread around rather than given to just a very rich few... > > > > The question is how would you solve the world problems and take care of > > the > > > people as well.. so far yu have stated that you only want to take care > > of > > > the rich as they are the only ones important.. > > > > Allan > > > > did I manage to push your buttons?? > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > O- those top 2% are scoundrels- in the same class as fleeing tyrants. > > > > > No- our problems started with easy credit- then high interest- then > > > > lousey loans being bundled. The USA is a consumer nation- compulsive > > > > and addicted- hair-brained. > > > > > A bank will only loan money if you have money. Businesses need money > > > > to start up and business hire workers. Unions are good and bad- good > > > > to protect workers/ bad if they demand so much it bankrupts the > > > > company. > > > > > Democrats? They like to "spread the money around" (Obamanomics) which > > > > is a form of theft! > > > > > I stopped voting Democrat a long time ago- when the neighbors gushed > > > > over Bill Clinton as a sexy candidate. I voted for Ross Perot. :-) > > > > > On Jun 20, 7:15 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Boy you buy the republican arguments,, past has proven that the rich > > do > > > > not > > > > > create jobs,, they just pock the money rather than pay their share of > > the > > > > > taxes,, Unless you are in the top 2% of the rich people in the > > united > > > > > states you pay for them.. they are takers not givers they need to > > be > > > > > paying their share.. the US is as deeply debt ridden as any one,, > > and > > > > > these problems are hidden by republican politicians.. > > > > > > All of it originating form reganomics. The massive national debt the > > US > > > > is > > > > > under is the direct result of republican policy of not taxing the > > rich.. > > > > > > It would go world wide and then they would have no where to hide > > their > > > > > money.. and they would have to invest it to maintain their incomes.. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think Germany should have to bail out irresponsible > > countries. > > > > > > Maybe the Scandnavians are doing well also- I don't follow them > > > > > > outside of that strange chef on PBS. If Turkey were a member, would > > > > > > she bail out Greece? Have those two even settled Cyprus yet? > > > > > > > The rich will simply duck their money and not hire if you tax them > > too > > > > > > highly. There are too many taxes, too many social programs, too > > much > > > > > > bureaucracy, too many wars, too many floods- endangering crops. > > > > > > > The West wanted cheap goods and cheap labor and the East complied > > and > > > > > > I fear we will ruin China's progress to our own disadvantage in > > the > > > > > > long run. How about capping outrageous salaries and bonuses and > > > > > > interest fees and penalities and college tuition altogether? > > > > > > > We pay tax when we purchase or inherit, while we own it and when we > > > > > > die. Enough is enough! > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 6:33 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am looking at the European economic crisis, lots of jabber ,, > > I am > > > > > > > wondering what the views of how this groups members would solve > > > > > > > the financial crisis gripping the world. > > > > > > > > My personal thoughts along this line is that all monies or other > > > > forms of > > > > > > > currency exchange would be putting a mandatory 20%+ currency > > export > > > > tax > > > > > > to > > > > > > > prevent companies from not paying their share of social burden.. > > and > > > > all > > > > > > > income over 200,000 Euro face a minimum of 35% income tax no > > > > deductions > > > > > > > allowed. > > > > > > > > I now it would effect everyone with price rises but I am sure of > > one > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > it would cover all taxes now paid and the people benefiting would > > be > > > > the > > > > > > > ones paying.. not being able to be the takers without > > > > responsibilities. > > > > > > > > I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts on how to solve > > > > > > > the financial crisis of the world > > > > > > > Your friend in minds eye > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > *--* > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
