Jo their are people especially on this sight that will try and convince they are learned masters, when in reality they are but fundamentalist. Reading it sounds very much like a earth moving event. I know you are not alone, simply because I too have walked that path.
I would recommend that it become a private conversation , I know personally I would enjoy that, my email address is valid do not put it through the group. And the easiest remind me is put topic-PVT in the subject line Looking forward to hearing from you Allan On 29 jul. 2011, at 22:35, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > It wasn't meant to remind anything to anyone. I was only sharing my > experience. I'm sorry if you found it too rudimentary. > > On Jul 29, 1:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> You pray before the meals? Yes, that's a good reminder. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt >>> open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and >>> origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything >>> suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into..... >>> something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know >>> that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I >>> could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that >>> there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own. >>> So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make >>> it a point to express my gratitude several times a day. >> >>> On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher >>>> power? >> >>>> On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe >>>>> that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow >>>>> connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks >>>>> and counting my blessings. >> >>>>> On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that >>>>>> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be >>>>>> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe >>> yourself >>>>>> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would >>> be >>>>>> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not >>>>>> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you >>>>>> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either >>>>>> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be >>> proper >>>>>> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being >>>>>> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at >>>>>> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a >>>>>> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to >>>>>> be so. >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of >>>>>>> calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you >>> have >>>>>>> written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would >>>>>>> like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that >>> there >>>>>>> is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is >>> that >>>>>>> I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel >>> protected >>>>>>> from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why >>> we >>>>>>> have religions? >> >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say >>> that on >>>>>>>> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state >>> of >>>>>>>> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about >>> the >>>>>>>> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: >>> What I >>>>>>>>> feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and >>> the >>>>>>>>> same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you >>> are part >>>>>>>>> of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are >>> part of >>>>>>>>> God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature >>> and >>>>>>>>> we live within God life force, am I right? >>>>>>>>> But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful >>>>>>>>> feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe >>> that you >>>>>>>>> are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God >>> and >>>>>>>>> you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be >>> worthy >>>>>>>>> enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are >>> trying >>>>>>>>> to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to >>>>>>>>> understand you fully when we reach our goal. >>>>>>>>> I wish you all the best >>>>>>>>> Menfranco >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit >>> within me >>>>>>>>>> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God >>>>>>>>>> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being >>> is the >>>>>>>>>> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is >>> no >>>>>>>>>> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is >>>>>>>>>> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who >>> does >>>>>>>>>> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a >>> feeling >>>>>>>>>> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour >>> enemity for >>>>>>>>>> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting >>> others. >>>>>>>>>> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of >>>>>>>>>> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful >>> state. But >>>>>>>>>> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body >>> and >>>>>>>>>> have a practical outlook.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
